M38A1 Turn signal wiring

anglykos · Post by **anglykos** » Tue May 16, 2006 12:23 am

I have just completed an M38A1 resto in Greece. I know need to install turn signals to make it street legal. I have a flasher unit, indicator stalk and harness, but I am looking for a wiring diagram to help me with the installation. Does anyone know where I can get one? Thank you for your assistance and best regards. Manos

maeserik · Post by **maeserik** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:03 am

I am also installing signalturnswitch on the steeringcolum of my m38

yoy need the solid state flasher, or a 24 volt modern type and the switch
i use these info :

look at http://webs.lanset.com/buzz/Mturnsig.html

the turnsignals on all m series look the same, example m151

succes Erik

anglykos · Post by **anglykos** » Tue May 16, 2006 3:55 am

Many thanks for the super-quick reply Eric. This was just what I needed. Regards Manos

maeserik · Post by **maeserik** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:42 am

it is nice to help each other !

my M38 is one ex Greece army

more info :
http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63581

more 38a1 info, in the Neterlends build' nekaf'
http://m38a1.tomaatnet.nl/index.html

if you had some info about these old Greece ex usarmy M38 jeeps, always welcome !

M38 jeeps are rare in Europ !

Rich Saylor · Post by **Rich Saylor** » Tue May 16, 2006 10:48 am

M38's are rare in the USA, too! Good luck with yours!

Wes K · Post by **Wes K** » Tue May 16, 2006 11:32 am

Except in Wisconsin where they out number the MB's.

Rich Saylor · Post by **Rich Saylor** » Tue May 16, 2006 2:35 pm

Curious. How many MB's are there in WI?

Wes K · Post by **Wes K** » Tue May 16, 2006 7:36 pm

I have no idea. I base my scientific guess on the shows here in the state where the M38 is clearly in the majority. Maybe they're afraid to come out. I keep my 45 under lock and key. At the nationals last June in Duluth they were about even up. Just out of curiosity how many MB's and M38's are there in California?

Rich Saylor · Post by **Rich Saylor** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:25 pm

From what I've seen, maybe 20+ MB/GPW's to one or so M38's- if any, at each larger show. It varies, but M38's are not common here. I have the only one I know of in the central coast area. Don't know about total number in California. Almost all of my M38 suppliers are out of state.

Cuz · Post by **Cuz** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:50 am

Looking at the MVPA directory the numbers registered there are:

MB WI 14 CA 123
GPW WI 20 CA 144
M38 WI 10 CA 32
M38A1 WI 15 CA 35

Rich Saylor · Post by **Rich Saylor** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:30 am

Interesting numbers. That makes 267 WW2 Jeeps & 32 M38's in CA- since there were about 10 times the number of WW2 Jeeps produced as M38's, that gets pretty close to the same ratio of manufacture as are registered Jeeps in CA that are currently listed by MVPA. Considering that the majority of WW2 Jeeps were destroyed in the war, or just left overseas after the war.... but then again a whole lot of M38's seem to have wound up in the South, so..?

In WI, the ratio of registered WW2 Jeeps to M38's is closer to 3:1, rather than 10:1. Anything to do with better weather protection for M38 occupants, or some other reason?

In CA, the vast majority of military Jeeps are either in the Bay area, or north of there (near Oroville, lots of military vehicle collectors there!) or else in SoCal. Not many in the Central Coast area, particularly Monterey. Lots of vintage warbirds, tho (P-51's, Seafuries, Corsairs, and so on)- especially in Salinas & Hollister. Those guys could form their own air force, and it would be a bigger one than some countries have, I'm sure. And probably better looking and better maintained, as well!

Cacti_Ken · Post by **Cacti_Ken** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:20 am

The wiring diagram shows a rear light fixture with four bulbs in it. Are those fixtures round and will the fit the M38? just curious, not saying I'm gonna change if I add flashers.

petesilfven · Post by **petesilfven** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 1:57 pm

That diagram is for a late M151A2 with the composite lights. They won't fit yours, but the Gamma Goat units that have three bulbs and a full red lens will.

Cacti_Ken · Post by **Cacti_Ken** » Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:58 pm

Thanks Pete,
If I go with turn signals I think I will use a fixture the same as the one on the left side. That way I will at least have two service stop lights to show up better than the single one. There just won't be a black out stop light. Won't be original, but maybe a little more safety wise. I still have to collect some more parts.

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