WTD data plates for lvt

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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by wanderingwillys » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:07 am

Hi Robert - sent you a note off FB I believe too but my St Louis Car Co. 1945 LVT-4 still has a witness mark from where someone recently removed the plate prior to the vehicle coming into my possession.

The measurements are 6.000" wide x 3.750" tall with two holes for mounting centered on the sides - the holes are 5.500" on center and measure 0.130" currently

I am not sure if the FMC and Graham Paige Plates are the same measurements.

There is also a mark from a second plate below the main one which has the same measurements as above. I know FMC had a manufacturer plate with a "water buffalo" graphic on it too not sure if the other makers used something similar.
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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by wanderingwillys » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:37 am

So the top plate should read (bold italic type is stamped into the plate after production):

LANDING VEHICLE TRACKED (UNARMORED) MARK 4
LVT (4) BUREAU PLAN 614031
_____________________________________________
BUILT FOR THE UNITED STATES NAVY
BY THE ST. LOUIS CAR CO., ST. LOUIS, MO
REGISTRY NO. [USA 27710 /C 90731 ] (US ANCHOR STAMP) [ FEB ] 194[5]
_____________________________________________
CARGO CAPACITY 9000 LBS. HOISTING WT. 36400 LBS.
CARGO CAPACITY 6000 LBS. (ARMOR INSTALLED)

And the lower plate with the graphic:

WATER BUFFALO
AMPHIBIOUS (GRAPHIC) TRACTOR
TRADE MARK
DESIGNED & MANUFACTURED FOR THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES
BY
THE FOOD MACHINERY CORPORATION
SAN JOSE, CALIF., LAKELAND, FL., LOS ANGELES, CALIF., RIVERSIDE, CALIF.

Hope that helps - I think the upper plate could be made with any of the three manufacturers (FMC, St Louis CC, or GP) in the makers slot - seems like the only variation is if they stamped the last digit of the year or had it on the plate already - I would be fine with having the last digit stamped like the other examples shown

Let me know your thoughts as I would love to get these made up as close to original as is possible

Regards

Matt

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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by wanderingwillys » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:25 am

Found this image - slightly better but the text is different as this was for a prototype turret version that was never produced - appears to be a LVT-(a)4 but with long barreled gun vs the 75mm howitzer...

Anyhow the graphic and the layout are good

Matt
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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by Lt.Horne » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:43 am

Thanks Matt!, We are working on it!
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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by Milmart » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:29 am

1941 Willys Slat Grill MB Dec 41
1942 Willys MBT trailer Dec 42
1942 Ford GPW Mar 42
1943 Willys MB Jan 43


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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by wanderingwillys » Wed Jul 24, 2019 12:39 pm

Thanks - that's a good collection - can anyone answer what the GP or SLCC upper tag that would have said "Water Buffalo" would have looked like? Can't seem to find any images of those - only the FMC upper plates...

My tractor has a spot with OEM holes and witness marks for both plates.... (and it is a SLCC unit)

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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by Milmart » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:11 pm

Id be interested in a set of LVT dataplates should they be produced
1941 Willys Slat Grill MB Dec 41
1942 Willys MBT trailer Dec 42
1942 Ford GPW Mar 42
1943 Willys MB Jan 43

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Re: WTD data plates for lvt

Post by wanderingwillys » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:23 am

Any luck Robert? Still interested!

Matt

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