Tim's Project G518
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The trailer is back from sandblasting, I towed it down and was expecting to bring it back myself after visiting my son at school, but more time was needed so it was delivered back to Tahoe, disassembled, but a very thorough job.
Once in daylight I can see what I'm up against. The front panel:
I have decided to shoot the whole thing with epoxy primer so it can stay outside.
Hoisted it up on its side for access, and I can now see the swiss cheese bed.
The Summit epoxy goes on quick and easy.
Time to think about the bed floor and how far to go. Patch or replace?
Once in daylight I can see what I'm up against. The front panel:
I have decided to shoot the whole thing with epoxy primer so it can stay outside.
Hoisted it up on its side for access, and I can now see the swiss cheese bed.
The Summit epoxy goes on quick and easy.
Time to think about the bed floor and how far to go. Patch or replace?
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Wowee Tim, the tub looks to be in nice shape. My opinion is, "all the damage that a piece of equipment has suffered during its' life is a patina that cannot be created overnight, and necessary repair is warranted depending on how extensive the damage is". I personally like seeing the bumps and bruises of these old gals, but that's just me.
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I agree, and I love the patina of my M37, original unrestored runner. It has 30 plus years (since I got it) of memories, various dents and dings. Same with my jeep, I could tell you where all the dents happened. But this trailer floor is thin. Not sure if I can weld to it. The sides are awesome, just about a 4" area across the front panel needs replacement.D.R.H. wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:10 pmWowee Tim, the tub looks to be in nice shape. My opinion is, "all the damage that a piece of equipment has suffered during its' life is a patina that cannot be created overnight, and necessary repair is warranted depending on how extensive the damage is". I personally like seeing the bumps and bruises of these old gals, but that's just me.
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Alright. It is time to do what has to be done.
I first cut a square out of a relatively clean and un-pitted area to determine the gauge and get the steel ordered. Then I practiced cutting in the curved area just below the original weld, hopefully to not cut into anything below, as well as not damage the sides. It worked well.
Then I started cutting the inch long welds that attach to the frame, from above, so I didn't have to get the spark shower while laying underneath.
Decided to start pulling the floor forward with a come along, like opening a big can of sardines. Notice the see-through nature of this bed.
I got it out in 4 pieces. A little cleanup, and will have to treat the uncovered crossmembers, but happy to get this going. I agonized over it long enough.
I first cut a square out of a relatively clean and un-pitted area to determine the gauge and get the steel ordered. Then I practiced cutting in the curved area just below the original weld, hopefully to not cut into anything below, as well as not damage the sides. It worked well.
Then I started cutting the inch long welds that attach to the frame, from above, so I didn't have to get the spark shower while laying underneath.
Decided to start pulling the floor forward with a come along, like opening a big can of sardines. Notice the see-through nature of this bed.
I got it out in 4 pieces. A little cleanup, and will have to treat the uncovered crossmembers, but happy to get this going. I agonized over it long enough.
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Nice pics. Tim. I can see now just how much erosion had taken place on the top surface of the floor. There were three Chevy's in a Bremerton Wa. scrap yard here with the same type of erosion, only worse. I save what I could from them, but ultimately they went the way of the Dodo Bird.
It is good to see that this won't happen to your trailer. Nice work!!
It is good to see that this won't happen to your trailer. Nice work!!
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Thanks, I'm in deep now. The floor just wasn't repairable. But holy cow, steel is expensive, over $300 for a sheet of 12 gauge. Oh well, onward.D.R.H. wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:56 amNice pics. Tim. I can see now just how much erosion had taken place on the top surface of the floor. There were three Chevy's in a Bremerton Wa. scrap yard here with the same type of erosion, only worse. I save what I could from them, but ultimately they went the way of the Dodo Bird.
It is good to see that this won't happen to your trailer. Nice work!!
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I have used this product a few times for rust neutralization. Works well, dries fast. It turns purplish-black after it reacts with the rust. Brushed it on the crossmembers in preparation for a coat of SEM Copperweld weld-though primer.
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No kidding on the cost of sheet metal. I picked up a 4 x 10' sheet of 18 gauge and was stunned on the cost. Been a while I guess.
Man, I bet that 12 gauge sheet was heavy!
Man, I bet that 12 gauge sheet was heavy!
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Yes sir. This considering that when you sell scrap steel you get did-dilly for it.
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Thanks, I'm in deep now. The floor just wasn't repairable. But holy cow, steel is expensive, over $300 for a sheet of 12 gauge. Oh well, onward.
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Tim, in times of crisis we must be able to out think the Director of Financial Records and Spending, if you are in fact "in deep" as you say. In this case the D.F.R.&S. would be Mrs. Timsresort, correct?? I am here to help in this area of slightly murky waters.
The D.F.R.&S. IS the only person who can approve qualified spending on allocation, allotment and re-utilization of military vehicles and equipment designated for repair and restoration. In this case, it is your trailer.
The purchaser/qualified restoration mechanic, (You), needs to make the D.F.R.&S. aware that allocated funds for repairs and restorations are in fact not wasted cash, but valuable investments that are comparable to new curtains, or that new pair of shoes make the new dress that the Director is wearing, look fantastic!!
Your timing MUST be impeccable during these few tense moments of negotiations. Care and Attention must be given closely to the Director so that She is thinking of other things at this crucial juncture. Good luck and I hope that you will be able to negotiate this patch of murky water without effort, and be able to have next quarters budget "in the bag" without question.
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Tim, in times of crisis we must be able to out think the Director of Financial Records and Spending, if you are in fact "in deep" as you say. In this case the D.F.R.&S. would be Mrs. Timsresort, correct?? I am here to help in this area of slightly murky waters.
The D.F.R.&S. IS the only person who can approve qualified spending on allocation, allotment and re-utilization of military vehicles and equipment designated for repair and restoration. In this case, it is your trailer.
The purchaser/qualified restoration mechanic, (You), needs to make the D.F.R.&S. aware that allocated funds for repairs and restorations are in fact not wasted cash, but valuable investments that are comparable to new curtains, or that new pair of shoes make the new dress that the Director is wearing, look fantastic!!
Your timing MUST be impeccable during these few tense moments of negotiations. Care and Attention must be given closely to the Director so that She is thinking of other things at this crucial juncture. Good luck and I hope that you will be able to negotiate this patch of murky water without effort, and be able to have next quarters budget "in the bag" without question.
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Dave, I appreciate this valuable advice. And under normal circumstances I would be able to employ a tactic such as you describe, but with the frequency and sheer volume of funding requests of late, I feared being audited, thereby revealing a pattern of spending on non-essential transportation. Therefore I have been forced to rely on alternative funding, known as the CSMLA, for Covert Swap Meet Liquid Assets. I believe these assets will carry me to the conclusion of the project.
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The price just caught me off-guard. And it does sound like a rip-off, but once I thought about it, I'm in a remote town, the welding shop gets a delivery from PDM every week, and he has costs, and I'm glad he is there. So does he pay wholesale and charge retail? Yes. I could drive to Reno or Sacramento and save, but time, fuel, convenience all factor in. Up here they say "shop local", so it's the price of doing business. And yes, Zeph, it is friggin heavy, couldn't move it myself safely.
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Before the floor can go in, I need to replace the 2 areas of rust-through on the front and left side. And in order to get to that I had to remove the front stake pockets, which are spot welded in. Got out my trusty Eastwood spot weld drill, and made short work of these, along with the spot welds holding the front panel to the crossmember.
Cleaned up the exposed rusty crossmembers and coated with weld though primer, then started fitting repair panels cut out of 14 gauge.
This moment is significant. Something is going back on the trailer!
Cleaned up, and on to the front.
Cleaned up the exposed rusty crossmembers and coated with weld though primer, then started fitting repair panels cut out of 14 gauge.
This moment is significant. Something is going back on the trailer!
Cleaned up, and on to the front.
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Nice work Tim...following your progress.
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Tim, nice work with the welding. I am wondering, what do you use to grind your welds down with. I am always a little concerned with using a hard grinding wheel. A little too much pressure outside the work and we wind up with a gouge ground into a place we don't want. Some times flapper wheels aren't aggressive enough. Ya know?
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