FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

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41-V-104 vise

Post by gpw_42 » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:19 pm

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41-V-104 bench vise, has 3" jaws, made by the Grand company. Not sure what SKO(s) this vise was a component of, or what era it was produced.

Not my pics, found on the net. See also: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-GRAND- ... SwV~VaNVVS which was the source of several of these pictures.

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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:41 am

That's a neat vise. It can clamp or be bolted down. "J5" is a reference to the ORD 5 SNL number. J2 was wrenches etc. J4 was pliers etc. J5 was "Lifting, Holding, Forming Tools (Vises, Clamps, etc)"
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by sincitygpw » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:29 am

Hi All
Here's a couple more the clamp open's up 2"
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by gpw_42 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:10 am

Dave, thanks for posting those! Any indication which SKO (set, kit or outfit) they were part of? I want to find out, but don’t know if a source to tap to start digging through. Twertsy’s great site is aimed at civilian tool catalogs, not military, and I’ve never found info like we need for this on military-info.com.

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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:10 pm

sincitygpw wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:29 am
Hi All
Here's a couple more
Dave,
Are they both FSN marked on the other side? Does the one on the left have copper slides?
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by sincitygpw » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:56 pm

Hi All
Greg
Good to hear from you! here's a picture of the ISN side,The copper color is just oxidation and some grease

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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:27 pm

I wish I knew you had these earlier when I was selling things to you. I would've traded for one instead! :)
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Post by sincitygpw » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:50 am

Hi All
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P.M. inbound
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by Wingnutt » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:12 am

Phil Jones posted this photo...

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...on this random whatzit thread, which prompted me to look it up in the March 45 ORD 5 SNL J-4:

"41-W-1555 | A171152 | WRENCH, magneto, w/0.012 thickness gage, size of opening 1/4..."

Not sure if Phil owns the wrench or not, but it looks like an eBay ad photo to me.
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by gpw_42 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:00 pm

I saved these pics from Facebook, Syracuse Gauge MFR Co tire pressure gauges. These both have US marks on the barrel; not sure if ORD or QMC marked.
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by Wingnutt » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:08 pm

Those are post-war, no earlier than October 1949, to be exact. I used to have one, and others have posted them before, and I have written about it fairly extensively on several threads, and yet didn't think to include them here. So, it's a good thing you brought them up.

The research part of this hobby is funny. There is so much that has been accomplished, and yet so much more to do, that the things you discovered in deep dives in the past year or so tend to diminish the intensity of the things you discovered in deep dives several years earlier. This is actually the second time I forgot my research (aided in no small part by a Tom Wolboldt data point) on the 8-G-620 TPG. The first time, during the writing of White, Vol 5, Chapter 40, was a tad bigger oops! :) I meant to include a warning about the 8-G-620 in the section on the 8-G-615. But remembered too late to make it to printing.

Here it is in its unpublished entirety! :)

"Schrader and Syracuse continued to provide general service type tire pressure gauges to Willys after the war, to include a gauge designed, per the 1949 ORD 7, for “zero weather zones.” This tire pressure gage is physically identical to the 8-G-615 on the outside, but has a different government stock number (8-G-620), and has “8-G-620” embossed on the neck of the gauge just above the nozzle. The 8-G-620 tire pressure gauge was introduced sometime between 2 August 1945, which is the last known wartime reference, in ORD 5-3-2, of the 8-G-615, and 15 October 1949, the first known reference, in ORD 7, of 8-G-620. These 8-G-620 gauges may look the part, but they are post-war and incorrect for the MB factory toolkit."
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by gpw_42 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:16 pm

Wingnutt, glad to have it before posting the 'updated' spreadsheet.

The pace of filling the spreadsheet has certainly slowed, but it still gets data added. More and more tools out there, it's just a matter of finding them, and then knowing what era any particular tool is from. It sure helps when someone has the kind of research already done like for these TPGs :)

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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by Wingnutt » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:19 am

Here's a 41-W-3328 I found yesterday. These were issued to every higher echelon tool-set, including 2-1, 2-2, 3-1, 3-2, 4-2, and the AF sets. Based on comparison to a Plomb branded and Navy marked example that Don has, I am fairly certain this was made by Plomb.

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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by d42jeep » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:04 am

Wingnutt’s posting of his new spark plug socket reminded me that I had forgotten to post my brake bleeder wrench to this thread. Thanks, Steve!
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Re: FSN Marked Tools & Their Dates of Production

Post by lucakiki » Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:28 am

While I cannot find the pictures at the moment, I have two different 41W marked drain plug wrenches.

One of them is marked Mc Sabina.
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WillysMB#344142 6-19-44 Navy N.S.Blue Grey
45 Bantam T-3 #57248 1-10-45
42 Willys MB-T #13560 11-42
43 Willys MB-T # 25417 4-43
Way too many WWII military tools,hopefully thinning down,and way too many posts...

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