1945 Willys MB Restoration Project
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1945 Willys MB Restoration Project
Hello,
Well I have been talking about it, and I have been thinking about it, and wanting to try it, so
in my quest to better manage time, and increase my WW2 Jeep restoration productivity, I am starting the restoration on my
1945 Willys MB !!
Here we GO !!!
This jeep will be worked on now, along side the restoration of my 1943 Ford GPW !!!!
Dual restorations !!!
I love it !!!
So now this jeep will have its own restoration post, along with the current 1943 GPW build from spare parts !!
I know Ron will appreciate this, as I have already been buying parts from him, for this jeep, and will now be buying more great JMP parts from him to support this restoration effort !!
I want to thank Jeff, aka " JAB" here on the G for the giving me the incentive to do a dual restoration , as that is exactly what he is doing on his jeep restoration efforts now .
Well, I figured I best join the club and up the production efforts !
This is America , we are people who get things done
These jeeps don't get restored sitting around, waiting for someone to restore them, someday ..... they get restored by pulling them out and actually restoring them !!!
So this is what I am doing !
I have 5 new Combat Rims for her already from Ron, along with 5 new Goodyear tires, flaps, with South Korean inner tubes and a new WeeBee canvas top !!
I have all 3 seats, in great shape, and a new US Made top bow, directly from Ron's open house, that my brother attended, and drove back to Florida with a couple sets for me !!
He said it was a great trip, and plans to attend the next one !
Here she is, the 1945 Willys MB :
The right front frame rail has a little bend in it, by the gusset that I will get straightened out. The windshield frame has many holes drilled it it that will need repair ! The jeep has ugly lock out hubs that are being removed, and the axle will be restored to normal ! The front bumper was welded to the gussets and will be carefully removed.
The gussets will be restored and a new US made front bumper that I got from Ron will be added.
The steering stabilizer is going to be tossed on the scrap metal pile
I do have the radiator as well. Look at the beautiful step, not rusted away or damaged, the other side is the same. Here we can see some of the many drill holes that will need to be welded up ! We can see how nice the passenger side is on the jeep as well.
Also, the steering wheel is a "small" wheel and will be replaced by an original spoke wheel I have in the barn.
Speaking of the Jeep barn, some jeep in there is going to be relocated elsewhere, to make room for this jeep ! The rear panel has some dents in it, the jeep has a few dents and many extra drill holes on it,and the rear cross member is bent outward a little.
This will be repaired !
I also have the cast pintle hitch for the jeep !
The leaf springs all look good and are MB ones, the frame has zero rust on it.
This jeep is an early 1945 MB.
Best Regards,
Ray
Well I have been talking about it, and I have been thinking about it, and wanting to try it, so
in my quest to better manage time, and increase my WW2 Jeep restoration productivity, I am starting the restoration on my
1945 Willys MB !!
Here we GO !!!
This jeep will be worked on now, along side the restoration of my 1943 Ford GPW !!!!
Dual restorations !!!
I love it !!!
So now this jeep will have its own restoration post, along with the current 1943 GPW build from spare parts !!
I know Ron will appreciate this, as I have already been buying parts from him, for this jeep, and will now be buying more great JMP parts from him to support this restoration effort !!
I want to thank Jeff, aka " JAB" here on the G for the giving me the incentive to do a dual restoration , as that is exactly what he is doing on his jeep restoration efforts now .
Well, I figured I best join the club and up the production efforts !
This is America , we are people who get things done
These jeeps don't get restored sitting around, waiting for someone to restore them, someday ..... they get restored by pulling them out and actually restoring them !!!
So this is what I am doing !
I have 5 new Combat Rims for her already from Ron, along with 5 new Goodyear tires, flaps, with South Korean inner tubes and a new WeeBee canvas top !!
I have all 3 seats, in great shape, and a new US Made top bow, directly from Ron's open house, that my brother attended, and drove back to Florida with a couple sets for me !!
He said it was a great trip, and plans to attend the next one !
Here she is, the 1945 Willys MB :
The right front frame rail has a little bend in it, by the gusset that I will get straightened out. The windshield frame has many holes drilled it it that will need repair ! The jeep has ugly lock out hubs that are being removed, and the axle will be restored to normal ! The front bumper was welded to the gussets and will be carefully removed.
The gussets will be restored and a new US made front bumper that I got from Ron will be added.
The steering stabilizer is going to be tossed on the scrap metal pile
I do have the radiator as well. Look at the beautiful step, not rusted away or damaged, the other side is the same. Here we can see some of the many drill holes that will need to be welded up ! We can see how nice the passenger side is on the jeep as well.
Also, the steering wheel is a "small" wheel and will be replaced by an original spoke wheel I have in the barn.
Speaking of the Jeep barn, some jeep in there is going to be relocated elsewhere, to make room for this jeep ! The rear panel has some dents in it, the jeep has a few dents and many extra drill holes on it,and the rear cross member is bent outward a little.
This will be repaired !
I also have the cast pintle hitch for the jeep !
The leaf springs all look good and are MB ones, the frame has zero rust on it.
This jeep is an early 1945 MB.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Re: 1945 Willys MB Restoration Project
Hello,
In this picture we can see the rust that developed along side the side wall hat channel.
I do like that late war dark olive drab poking out ! This is the main area that needs repair on the entire jeep.
There is a little rust through as can be seen
there, and also in the gas tank well itself.
I am confident that the gas tank well can be repaired .
The floors are in great shape, but the rear floor has some dents that need straightening out !!
The shock absorber covers also need dents removed, as can be seen.
The tool box bottoms are in perfect shape !
I will start this jeep restoration in reverse of the GPW.
I will first dismantle it, and start with the frame and work up from there.
The dismantling will be done this week.
I had to do it the other way around on the GPW .
The good news on this jeep, is that the body is in pretty good shape, the fenders will need a little repair and dents straightened.
I have a brand new wiring harness here already for the Jeep, as well as a new, beautiful, JMP wide mouth gas tank, and many parts from Ron.
I am looking forward to this restoration, and it will take a lot less welding repair than my current GPW project.
I also have new JMP rear bumperettes, and spare tire holder and base.
This jeep has a good T-84 transmission in it, but it has a Willys Industrial engine.
The engine will be removed, and a rebuilt 1945 MB engine will be dropped in when the frame is ready !!!
A full set of correct gauges also have arrived.
Best Regards,
Ray
In this picture we can see the rust that developed along side the side wall hat channel.
I do like that late war dark olive drab poking out ! This is the main area that needs repair on the entire jeep.
There is a little rust through as can be seen
there, and also in the gas tank well itself.
I am confident that the gas tank well can be repaired .
The floors are in great shape, but the rear floor has some dents that need straightening out !!
The shock absorber covers also need dents removed, as can be seen.
The tool box bottoms are in perfect shape !
I will start this jeep restoration in reverse of the GPW.
I will first dismantle it, and start with the frame and work up from there.
The dismantling will be done this week.
I had to do it the other way around on the GPW .
The good news on this jeep, is that the body is in pretty good shape, the fenders will need a little repair and dents straightened.
I have a brand new wiring harness here already for the Jeep, as well as a new, beautiful, JMP wide mouth gas tank, and many parts from Ron.
I am looking forward to this restoration, and it will take a lot less welding repair than my current GPW project.
I also have new JMP rear bumperettes, and spare tire holder and base.
This jeep has a good T-84 transmission in it, but it has a Willys Industrial engine.
The engine will be removed, and a rebuilt 1945 MB engine will be dropped in when the frame is ready !!!
A full set of correct gauges also have arrived.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Re: 1945 Willys MB Restoration Project
Hello,
I removed the 2 front fenders.
They are in need of some repairs, but overall they are in good shape.
Here are pictures of the passenger side fender and the damages that need attention . Here we can see the tab that connects the fender to the frame has been broken off, a very common occurrence. Here we see that the bump out for the battery has been banged up pretty good. Here we can see that the fender hat channel is getting some rust through from the inside. This is an easy repair The hat channel for the fender is in great shape, the battery bump out will have to be banged back into position, and worked back into good shape.
Best Regards,
Ray
I removed the 2 front fenders.
They are in need of some repairs, but overall they are in good shape.
Here are pictures of the passenger side fender and the damages that need attention . Here we can see the tab that connects the fender to the frame has been broken off, a very common occurrence. Here we see that the bump out for the battery has been banged up pretty good. Here we can see that the fender hat channel is getting some rust through from the inside. This is an easy repair The hat channel for the fender is in great shape, the battery bump out will have to be banged back into position, and worked back into good shape.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
Here are some pictures of the driver's side fender and areas that will need attention. This fender to frame mounting tab is broken off as well, unfortunately the pieces are not still on the jeep, so i will make new tabs to weld on these areas. Here we can see the vent openings are dented up and will need to be straightened out and tapped back into position. A little bit of this, and a little bit of that, and the fenders will be looking great !!
But the heat this summer is ridiculous
I better move under a shade tree, or set up a big tent against the sun and heat !!!
Best Regards,
Ray
Here are some pictures of the driver's side fender and areas that will need attention. This fender to frame mounting tab is broken off as well, unfortunately the pieces are not still on the jeep, so i will make new tabs to weld on these areas. Here we can see the vent openings are dented up and will need to be straightened out and tapped back into position. A little bit of this, and a little bit of that, and the fenders will be looking great !!
But the heat this summer is ridiculous
I better move under a shade tree, or set up a big tent against the sun and heat !!!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
I want to get the bend out on the frame rail.
Obviously I will have to get the oxy-acetelyne torch out to heat the kink to straighten it out..
Here are some pics with using a hydraulic ram, and hammer.
I got a little of the side dent out, but the metal is too strong for the press.
Once it is heated up, the press should be able to overcome the kink.
I will also remove the front angle iron bumper, as that will take pressure of the frame rail while trying to reform the shape.
I will remove the bumper now by grinding the welds away !
Best Regards,
Ray
I want to get the bend out on the frame rail.
Obviously I will have to get the oxy-acetelyne torch out to heat the kink to straighten it out..
Here are some pics with using a hydraulic ram, and hammer.
I got a little of the side dent out, but the metal is too strong for the press.
Once it is heated up, the press should be able to overcome the kink.
I will also remove the front angle iron bumper, as that will take pressure of the frame rail while trying to reform the shape.
I will remove the bumper now by grinding the welds away !
Best Regards,
Ray
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Re: 1945 Willys MB Restoration Project
Hello Ray - I would probably cut the top bent section out straighten the side and weld it back in - thats just my suggestion , no need to take it on board !
Barrie
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Hello Barrie,
Thanks !!
You are exactly right, that is what I will do, as it can then be hammered smooth and rewelded back, and then ground down.
I am working on removing the welded on bumper, but have to come inside to the ice cold ac, every 5 minutes or so, as the sun is directly overhead !
Sort of like the Siestas in Spain
It is a real sizzler out today !!
Here is what I just did, but now have to get the welds on the inside bottom of the gusset cut.
Here we can see the weld to the gusset. I ground away the heads on the non original bolts, and tapped them out. Here I cut the welds with a grinder, to separate them from the gussets. Here is seen the underside weld, I will use my little rotary tool grinder to cut these on both sides.
I am glad they only welded one edge !!
Keep in mind, I could fry a dozen eggs on this jeep in the sun !!!
The original bumper gussets are in great shape, just bent up.
These will restore very nicely , and look great !!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
Tonight I was able to get a little time used wisely, and started working on the passenger side fender. The main damage in the fender was the battery bump out area.
It appears to me that bubba decided when replacing the battery he put a much bigger one in, that didn't fit, so he banged the crap out of the bump out to force it in.
Well, I banged in the opposite direction and it has now come out pretty good. Not rounded anymore Much straighter, and will be an easy task to get it perfect now. The shape has been restored, and with a little more hammering of the flat areas tomorrow, it should be back to normal.
I will also spot weld a few spots that were popped when it was hammered out of shape.
Once all the dents and dings are flattened out, and the cracks welded up, I will carefully cut out some rust damage on the hat channel, and weld in some small repair patches, and make a repair piece for the rear frame tab that was broken off.
Then it will be ready to blast, prime, and paint, and be put in the loft.
I also did some more cutting of welds on the front bumper, and have a few more to do tomorrow.
Also some chisel work, but it should be off tomorrow !!
This is going to be a fun jeep restoration, and fairly quick as there is so little rust to repair !!
Best Regards,
Ray
Tonight I was able to get a little time used wisely, and started working on the passenger side fender. The main damage in the fender was the battery bump out area.
It appears to me that bubba decided when replacing the battery he put a much bigger one in, that didn't fit, so he banged the crap out of the bump out to force it in.
Well, I banged in the opposite direction and it has now come out pretty good. Not rounded anymore Much straighter, and will be an easy task to get it perfect now. The shape has been restored, and with a little more hammering of the flat areas tomorrow, it should be back to normal.
I will also spot weld a few spots that were popped when it was hammered out of shape.
Once all the dents and dings are flattened out, and the cracks welded up, I will carefully cut out some rust damage on the hat channel, and weld in some small repair patches, and make a repair piece for the rear frame tab that was broken off.
Then it will be ready to blast, prime, and paint, and be put in the loft.
I also did some more cutting of welds on the front bumper, and have a few more to do tomorrow.
Also some chisel work, but it should be off tomorrow !!
This is going to be a fun jeep restoration, and fairly quick as there is so little rust to repair !!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
I removed the original hood hold down latches. Both are in excellent shape and have the one flat side.
What is nice, 1 latch had 2 original CTR bolts holding it down.
These appear to be original, and are in great shape.
From what I understand these were used on MB jeeps on the hood latches. Here is the configuration used to attach the hold downs :
Bolt, washer, lock washer, nut.
These will clean up nice and look great restored.
I checked the hood, and all the catches also have the CTR bolts, as well as the windshield latch bolts.
The latches were missing, but bolts were returned to the holes.
I thought that these should EC bolts, but maybe they used both ?
I will have to check some other MBs.
Best Regards,
Ray
I removed the original hood hold down latches. Both are in excellent shape and have the one flat side.
What is nice, 1 latch had 2 original CTR bolts holding it down.
These appear to be original, and are in great shape.
From what I understand these were used on MB jeeps on the hood latches. Here is the configuration used to attach the hold downs :
Bolt, washer, lock washer, nut.
These will clean up nice and look great restored.
I checked the hood, and all the catches also have the CTR bolts, as well as the windshield latch bolts.
The latches were missing, but bolts were returned to the holes.
I thought that these should EC bolts, but maybe they used both ?
I will have to check some other MBs.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
Today I started some repair work on the driver's side fender.
I will note that even though there is olive drab paint on the inside of the fender, there is not any trace of any tinning. From what I understand most of that went away when the radio suppression system was upgraded in 1944.
There was a little rust through on the inside of the fender over the hat channel.
I marked an area around the rust making sure not to cut outside of the limit of the hat channel.
I marked it so the cut would be in the middle of the flat edges of the channel, so a new patch when welded in could not be seen from below. Once the cut out was marked and removed, I found that the entire hat channel was packed with clay, mud, and small stones. I even found the original rubber grommet in the mud, preserved really well, and still pliable . For you geologists out there, Here are some of the stones that were also in the mix of clay and sand.
I picked this jeep up from a seller in northern California, just below the Oregon border .
He got it from Oregon, and it has an Oregon title, so that is likely where the rocks and debris came from.
I have no idea how the dirt material could fill it up so completely, but it did !!
Once I got all the gunk out of there, I tapped out the rust chunks on the channel and blasted it clean. There are a few pin holes in the channel that were uncovered, but I will repair the channel by cutting out 2 small patches and welding them in with new metal.
Now if I can get motivated in the Florida heat, I will blast the entire fender then start the metal repairs and welding.
Best Regards,
Ray
Today I started some repair work on the driver's side fender.
I will note that even though there is olive drab paint on the inside of the fender, there is not any trace of any tinning. From what I understand most of that went away when the radio suppression system was upgraded in 1944.
There was a little rust through on the inside of the fender over the hat channel.
I marked an area around the rust making sure not to cut outside of the limit of the hat channel.
I marked it so the cut would be in the middle of the flat edges of the channel, so a new patch when welded in could not be seen from below. Once the cut out was marked and removed, I found that the entire hat channel was packed with clay, mud, and small stones. I even found the original rubber grommet in the mud, preserved really well, and still pliable . For you geologists out there, Here are some of the stones that were also in the mix of clay and sand.
I picked this jeep up from a seller in northern California, just below the Oregon border .
He got it from Oregon, and it has an Oregon title, so that is likely where the rocks and debris came from.
I have no idea how the dirt material could fill it up so completely, but it did !!
Once I got all the gunk out of there, I tapped out the rust chunks on the channel and blasted it clean. There are a few pin holes in the channel that were uncovered, but I will repair the channel by cutting out 2 small patches and welding them in with new metal.
Now if I can get motivated in the Florida heat, I will blast the entire fender then start the metal repairs and welding.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
These look like original Willys type wiring clips, at least they match what MV Spares has as reproduction ones.
Here we can see the original bakelite wiring junction block connector bar, and the headlight hold down wing nutted bolt.
The top of the threads have been "crimped", and I think that was a feature on the later jeeps to keep the wing nut on the bolt .
There is a crack on the upper fender area that I will weld up.
I will use the rotary tool to trace it out just a little, before welding. Here is another crack at the bottom of the fender.
Best Regards,
Ray
These look like original Willys type wiring clips, at least they match what MV Spares has as reproduction ones.
Here we can see the original bakelite wiring junction block connector bar, and the headlight hold down wing nutted bolt.
The top of the threads have been "crimped", and I think that was a feature on the later jeeps to keep the wing nut on the bolt .
There is a crack on the upper fender area that I will weld up.
I will use the rotary tool to trace it out just a little, before welding. Here is another crack at the bottom of the fender.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
Here I have marked out the bad metal area to be cut out. I want to point out, that I marked it in a way, that when new metal has been added in, and welded into position, the repair won't be seen after careful grinding of the welds.
The factory seams will look correct, as they will still be in position. I will trim a little more out from the left side of the opening to provide a good "shelf" to weld in the patch, to the remaining small edge of the original hat channel.
When welded in from both sides, the repair will be very solid.
The new hat channel side tabs are not exact the same width as the originals on Willys or GPWs.
I have a reproduction fender hat channel, seen above, that I will cut sections from, to repair the original channels.
Both driver's side and passenger's side will need some small hat channel patches.
Best Regards,
Ray
Here I have marked out the bad metal area to be cut out. I want to point out, that I marked it in a way, that when new metal has been added in, and welded into position, the repair won't be seen after careful grinding of the welds.
The factory seams will look correct, as they will still be in position. I will trim a little more out from the left side of the opening to provide a good "shelf" to weld in the patch, to the remaining small edge of the original hat channel.
When welded in from both sides, the repair will be very solid.
The new hat channel side tabs are not exact the same width as the originals on Willys or GPWs.
I have a reproduction fender hat channel, seen above, that I will cut sections from, to repair the original channels.
Both driver's side and passenger's side will need some small hat channel patches.
Best Regards,
Ray
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Ray,
I am seeing the importance of saving every one of those clips, screws and other bits. If anything it provides a great forensic look into what the resto should look like in terms of hardware. I have a small bucket (cup)_of those and have been saving them. I wish I had recorded every location they came from. As always Ray, great work. You have a lot of irons in the fire and many more waiting to be forged. I need to get off my keester and start the next one.
I am seeing the importance of saving every one of those clips, screws and other bits. If anything it provides a great forensic look into what the resto should look like in terms of hardware. I have a small bucket (cup)_of those and have been saving them. I wish I had recorded every location they came from. As always Ray, great work. You have a lot of irons in the fire and many more waiting to be forged. I need to get off my keester and start the next one.
Oz
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Hello Oz,17thAirborne wrote: ↑Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:13 amRay,
I am seeing the importance of saving every one of those clips, screws and other bits. If anything it provides a great forensic look into what the resto should look like in terms of hardware. I have a small bucket (cup)_of those and have been saving them. I wish I had recorded every location they came from. As always Ray, great work. You have a lot of irons in the fire and many more waiting to be forged. I need to get off my keester and start the next one.
Thanks !
Yes a lot of irons in the fire
But I figure it is good to keep them all warm, and try to do a little on each as you can, and pretty soon you start getting them completed.
I am working on these fenders now, as I am waiting on the helicoil kit needed to repair the GPW bolt hole for the grease seal retainers on the front axle.
Once that gets here, I will finish that front axle and mount the leaf springs to it.
Then I will bolt it to the frame and finally have a rolling frame again, which will really start to speed things up on that jeep, as I can get the engine and transmission mounted and the body moving toward being placed onboard !!
But this Florida summer heat and rain is pretty ugly working out in the sun !!
It does slow you down, but we must keep moving forward little by little to win the victory.
Jeff is working on 2 GPWs now in Wisconsin, so I am trying to do 2 jeeps here as well, to make better production and use of time.
Time goes by whether we are working on the jeeps or not, so I want to keep working toward getting these jeeps restored.
Because as you know, we all have more projects that need restoring
I just bought another project today , a very rare in the USA, and super awesome, Dutch return Nekaf M38A1 jeep,
to go with the USMC CJV-35U I found last week
I didn't think any of those were even in the USA !!
I remember seeing them in service in Holland in 1989, or the early 1990's.
More irons in the fire, but I love it !!
I just need some helper troops to push forward
Keep up your great works in Tenn !!
I am glad you sold that GPW frame to someone who needed it !
Summer in the South, is a hard time to get motivated, but winter is coming with cool weather ....
For example, I got organized to sand blast the fenders, and even with separators, got tons of water spraying out, like paint, from the old style blaster.
I am thinking the water is condensing in the long air hoses as it arrives, but after it gets past the separators.
So I will have to set up the power washer media blasting again, just for the fenders, but it will get done then.
However, I like to reuse the glass bead, and it has to dry before it can be collected and sifted to reuse.
That takes time on the concrete to dry, but add it daily rain storms, and you get the picture !!
Best Regards,
Ray
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Hello,
I got some time and finished the removal of the bubba welded on bumper.
It was not an easy task with all those welds !!
Now that the bumper is gone, I can
get access to the frame horns to repair and straighten them, and to restore these original bumper gussets.
They certainly need it !!
Best Regards,
Ray
I got some time and finished the removal of the bubba welded on bumper.
It was not an easy task with all those welds !!
Now that the bumper is gone, I can
get access to the frame horns to repair and straighten them, and to restore these original bumper gussets.
They certainly need it !!
Best Regards,
Ray
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