1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

If you have an unrestored WWII jeep, we would like to see pictures, and hear your comments. NO EBAY or COMMERCIAL SALES.
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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by 70th Division » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:12 am

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I know you have been busy with other matters the last few weeks, but I wonder if you have more news about the trailer.
And remember the trailer does not use a generator so, you can restore it more easy. 🥴
Well, I have been staying in contact with the guy I bought it from, and he was going to deliver it here, I will cover all costs both ways !
He tried, but had trouble balancing it on his trailer. But will try again, if not, I have to repair some of my trailer decking, and put 8 new tires on it, and go get it myself 😁.
If he can bring it down, that would be great, but we may have to go get it, and since I feel great, maybe will do that soon.
He sent me a video of towing it down the road 😁👍!
This will be a great and easy project to restore and make it with a nice cabin like interior !!

Just a reminder of this beautiful trailer project :
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It will be a fun project !!

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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by JAB » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:18 am

By comparison, how hard would it be to get new tires, grease or replace the wheel bearings, and rig up some trailer lights and just tow it home as-is? Maybe even rig up a ball-hitch, without damaging the original one of course.
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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by Tuareg » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:27 am

JAB wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:18 am
By comparison, how hard would it be to get new tires, grease or replace the wheel bearings, and rig up some trailer lights and just tow it home as-is? Maybe even rig up a ball-hitch, without damaging the original one of course.
Good idea
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Post by 70th Division » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:31 am

JAB wrote:
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By comparison, how hard would it be to get new tires, grease or replace the wheel bearings, and rig up some trailer lights and just tow it home as-is? maybe even rig up a ball-hitch, without damaging the origian one of course.
Hello Jeff,

I thought of that , but was sent pics of the wheels, and some of the lugs are broken off, and they take CCKW rims.
So decided that it would be best to trailer it here.
I just need to get motivated to replace the formerly new deck boards, and formerly brand new tires on the goose neck trailer, and go get it !!!
It is just a lot to spend on tires that last maybe 3 years, then go bad whether they are used or not.

But I want the trailer here, we can call it Tuareg's Trailer 🙂👍!
He found an original picture of one in France during WW2, and I found another on a color film riding into Germany behind the troops !
It is super rare , and the only known other one was posted here on the G a few years ago, found in the USA, but that poster never returned to answer questions.
A neighbor offered me a free motor home, that I am thinking I can remove appliances and a generator from, to add to this trailer as part if it's restoration.
Those items rarely go bad in motor homes since they are hardly ever used !
Maybe get a nice fridge, bathroom equipment, generator, holding tanks, etc from that to install in this trailer.


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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by JAB » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:19 am

That's a great idea! Especially if you can do it without doing anything that couldn't be undone to the "originalness".
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Post by 70th Division » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:43 am

JAB wrote:
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That's a great idea! Especially if you can do it without doing anything that couldn't be undone to the "originalness".

Hello Jeff,

Yes I am thinking all those components can be retrofitted into the WW2 trailer.
I think it will become a nice mobile cabin once it is done 👍🙂 !

Plus free is a good price !


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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by Tuareg » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:24 am

Remember you told me I could sleep there if one day I can flight to Florida to meet you, so do not forget to put a bed.
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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by 70th Division » Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:53 am

Tuareg wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:24 am
Remember you told me I could sleep there if one day I can flight to Florida to meet you, so do not forget to put a bed.
😜

Hello,

Yes that will be great !
You can be the first guest 😁 !
I will certainly put some beds in there, and hopefully an airconditioner as well 😁👍 !
I will have to get busy and go get the trailer in South Carolina !
Which means I will have to repair my big trailer first !
But it needs to be done.


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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by 70th Division » Wed Jun 12, 2024 1:27 pm

Hello,

I have installed the first half of the rear main rope seal.
I soaked it in oil overnight.
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How does that look Jeff ?
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I worked it into the groove until it was well set into position.
I used a 1 inch stainless rod to get it in and slowly rolled and worked onto position.
Then carefully rolled it in with a larger socket, that insured it was well set.

I next used an X-acto knife to carefully trim the rope seal as close as possible to the block.
It cut perfectly, and I cut it slowly, and it went just right.


Now I will install the next half of the seal in the end cap.
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The cap seal is installed, and trimmed flush.
I saw on the video that some leave a little material on the ends, but then I saw another video that said cut it flush.
An addition of a touch of Permatex on the ends of the rope seals, and a little on the block edges, should take care of any leak potential, along with the rubber dowels.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e39dNzVYsP8

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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by JAB » Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:46 pm

Lookin' good Ray!

Here's a good tutorial to watch to verify how your experience compares; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSQWlnvAIbI
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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by 70th Division » Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:07 pm

JAB wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2024 2:46 pm
Lookin' good Ray!

Here's a good tutorial to watch to verify how your experience compares; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSQWlnvAIbI

Hello Jeff,

An excellent video !
I just watched it !
The results I think are the same.
I didn't hammer the seal, and didn't use any sealant under it.

I followed what Metal Shaper and Greendot did, and rolled and rolled it to fit into position.

I feel it is well set in.
I also didn't add and punch marks to the block .

Did you use any sealant under the rope seal ?

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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by JAB » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:53 pm

No sealant under the seal for me either. I guess I missed that part of the video, but I don't have any leaks. :D (Well, at least not from the engine.... yet)
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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by 70th Division » Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:56 pm

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No sealant under the seal for me either. I guess I missed that part of the video, but I don't have any leaks. :D (Well, at least not from the engine.... yet)

That is great Jeff !!
We shouldn't have any leaks using these nos seals !!
I will keep it as it is now, and will get the crank cleaned again, and installed tomorrow !
Once I get that moving forward, the engine should come right along and free the log jam on getting the power plant installed , and getting back to blasting and painting the body !!


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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by 70th Division » Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:58 pm

Hello,

I am about to install the crank !

I cleaned my crank several times again, and have it ready to go !

First, I replaced the 2 old flywheel dowels, with the 2 new nos ones.
I used a rubber mallet to tap the old ones out of the flange.
I also used the rubber mallet to tap the new dowels into the flange.
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Then I installed the 4 F marked flywheel bolts from Ron via JMP.
They look great, all fit nicely.

Always remember to install these flywheel bolts and 2 dowels before installing the crank into the block !!!!
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Next I added the Lucas Assembly Lube to the crank and bearings and set the crank into the block.
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Now we can see I put a piece of blue tape on the end of the crank.
The reason I did that, was to mark the crank at TDC, because I saw a very good video on YT, that had some Intel that sounded pretty reasonable.
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On my NOS MB flywheel, there is a little arrow stamped on the wheel.
So when I install the fly wheel, the arrow will be matched with the blue tape, pointing to TDC :D .
I had mentioned it before and wondered what the purpose of the arrow was that is stamped onto the flywheel.
Well, the video guy mentioned he has an arrow on his flywheel and on the end of the crankshaft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXUBDbdb34Y
Here is the great video !

He said he heard that when assembling the crank and flywheel, get the arrows lined up, both pointing the same direction.
That way they would be lined up at TDC, once the crank is placed in position, with the number 1 and number 4 piston positions on the crank in the upward stroke towards the top of the block.
This I am thinking matches the crank and flywheel together.
This makes a lot of sense.
Now the GPW crank I have, has no arrow on it, but I placed into the block where it would be if the pistons 1 and 4 were in the TDC position, so when I put the flywheel on, I will aim the arrow on it, in the same orientation, pointing upward, matching the crank position marked with the blue tape TDC which would be in TDC, based on
the video, and also by observation during early assembly.

I am wondering if the flywheel which is factory balanced, is supposed to be placed in this position using the arrow alignment to set everything properly together ?

Of course this is just a theory, but makes some sense !!

Tomorrow, I will get the bearing caps torqued down, and on the rear cap will get it installed with a touch of Permatex "The Right Stuff" sealant along the edges, and dabs on the ends of the rope seal, and a dab or two on the rubber dowels.
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Then I will use this ARP Fastener Assembly Lube on the bearing cap bolt threads, washer, and under the bolt head, as recommended.
This product is to be used , and will also get the correct torque values as well without any interference.


Forward Progress !!

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Re: 1943 Ford GPW Build from Rescued 1943 Parts

Post by JAB » Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:30 pm

Just a reminder for later, when you get to this part....from this thread; viewtopic.php?f=4&t=338683&hilit=oil+pump+rotor I mentioned this, as a reminder to myself!


One thing that I always forget so I have to look it up; when you install the timing chain, the marks on the sprockets are in line near each other, but the #1 cylinder is on the top of the intake stroke. Before you install the oil pump you need to rotate the crank one turn (the cam will go 1/2 turn) to get the #1 cylinder on the compression stroke. Both timing marks will be inline but at the top of each sprocket. Then install the oil pump with the slot orientation per the manual (11:00 O’clock). It’s in the manual, but easily overlooked.

And even if you do this right, if the distributor was disassembled it’s possible that it was re-assembled with the top part that holds the rotor was installed 180 degrees off relative to the “fat” part of the slot. I built my distributor from a pile of distributor parts and assembled it 180 degrees off so I just ran into this situation yesterday. It’s easy to fix, but for a moment I couldn’t figure out why I had everything right but the rotor was off by 1/2 turn.
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