Main wiring harness clip to firewall.

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Main wiring harness clip to firewall.

Post by Ian Fawbert » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:43 am

Main harness clip. 1st contract GPW.

Can anyone advise if I have the correct clip on the main harness or if a different style of clip is used in this location on a very early/first contract GPW with flat bottom glove box.

It’s a modern clip in my photo, at the moment more interested if I have the right style please.

Any photos, especially of unrestored/pre restoration examples would be great.

Of note, LATER ford made tubs have a flat metal tab. This tub is the very first ford style tub.

I know it’s the wrong dimmer switch in the photo, that’s been fixed after the photo was taken.
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Re: Main wiring harness clip to firewall.

Post by Klaas » Thu Feb 17, 2022 12:36 am

Hi Ian, not much response to your question until now. I have had a look on the fixings on the wiring loom on my GPW17331 which is first/second contract with flat glovebox floor etc. and there is only the spot welded fold over clip near the bottom of the footwell and the screwed in clip just above the junction box. The clip you ask about is not present and never has been as there is no hole in the footwell on 17331. I was a little worried that the loom might get caught on the clutch pedal as it is quite loose around that area, but (fingers crossed) that has not happened yet. Perhaps a previous owner of your vehicle thought the same and fitted the clip there.
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Re: Main wiring harness clip to firewall.

Post by Ian Fawbert » Sat Feb 19, 2022 2:07 am

Hello Klaas,

Thank you for taking the time to check and photo your GPW.

I too have the tab shown in your photo. Your comment re the clutch and the cable is an interesting one and rang a bell in my head as soon as you said.

At this stage, unless other evidence arrives, I think you may be right, someone fitted it before me and in my novice state I saw the loose harness and fitted one too.

Shall leave it there for the moment (for the reason above) and keep investigating.

Thanks again, Ian.
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Re: Main wiring harness clip to firewall.

Post by Ian Fawbert » Tue Mar 01, 2022 1:17 pm

Plot thickens!

This hole (where I put a clip) is present on:
GPW 3606- no signs of a clip ever present on floor or original loom
GPW 11730- unknown pre resto condition.
GPW 12798- no sign of a clip present on floor (loom uknown)


NO hole in floor present on
GPW 17331
GPW 17963
GPW 22XXX

Interesting! What do we all think???
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Re: Main wiring harness clip to firewall.

Post by Klaas » Tue Mar 01, 2022 9:58 pm

Hi Ian,

So now the score is 3 - 3!
Perhaps the Ford drawings will tell something, if the right one is available.
Or "He Who Should Not Be Named" will know more.
Measuring the exact location of the hole on each vehicle that has it, will possibly give a clue to its originality.
Could be that in the past 80 years someone drilled the hole for the clip there for fixing the flopping loom and the location varies.

Another possiblity is the first / second contract or VEP / EP cut off point as the 3 holy-ones are well within the first contract.

Also could be factory related.
Frame number and locations and the "mystery-box" are stamped different at each of the 5 factories so there can be other differences.
GPW17331 is from the Dallas factory. Perhaps they did not like that hole there :wink:

A lot to dig into and that for a very small hole!
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