GPW 1533

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GPW 1533

Post by joostini » Wed May 19, 2021 7:11 am

hi guys
i just bought GPW 1533. I am verry excited about it. But is has a postwar engine with a F marked head. I have a GPW engine spare. But is it true i should have a Wilson willys engine with GPW stamping ?

It also has a Waltham long needle speedo. Is that correct?
2 gauges are missing. There is a 30 amps tincanlid and a oil tincanlid in it. But is there a fuel and temp gauge with a tincan lid ?

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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Michael O. » Wed May 19, 2021 8:08 am

Very nice! What is the DoD of GPW-1533? The speedometer should be a long needle Stewart-Warner 590AD, not the long needle Waltham (introduced in Feb 1943). As far as your motor, GPW-1533 most likely could have had a Wilson foundry block installed originally (with GPW-1533 stamped on the serial number pad. Ford was casting their own engines fairly early on though. I have motor# GPW-2263...Ford block with factory applied serial number. To date, it’s the earliest known Ford produced GPW block.

Yes, all of your ancillary gauges should be the Stewart Warner “paint can” style gauges. Your amp gauge should be a -50/+50 type. GPWs never used the -30/+30 type. The SW paint can lid temp gauge will be a challenge to locate, but I’ve been able to find a few.

If you do find an early GPW serial numbered Wilson block....no hard using it in GPW-1533.

Ford did use some Wilson blocks also in mid to late 1943.

Here are some of my early GPW gauges...some will go in GPW-2647.
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by joostini » Wed May 19, 2021 11:04 am

Tnx Michael,

I have to search for some gauges then.
The DOD of gpw 1533 is februari 27th 1942
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Post by parker007 » Wed May 19, 2021 11:18 am

things that set early gpw apart off the top my head are paint can gauges, willson engine block with ford internals.pancake air cleaner, flat top grill, scalloped rear axles, small neck fuel tank, split back seats. no bo drive light, right fill tranny. thin transfer case levers, low windshield with no gun rack mounts, script on tailgate, low lock glove box door, flat bottom glove box, thick steering wheel. im sure i forgot lots.
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Post by W. Winget » Wed May 19, 2021 11:39 am

No trailer receptacle, no black out drive switch
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Michael O. » Wed May 19, 2021 7:08 pm

joostini wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:04 am
Tnx Michael,

I have to search for some gauges then.
The DOD of gpw 1533 is februari 27th 1942

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Is there anything stamped in the box next to “Ford GPW”? I’m just trying to figure out which assembly plant yours came from.

I have GPW-2647, DoD 2-26-42 (Dearborn).
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Michael O. » Wed May 19, 2021 7:31 pm

parker007 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:18 am
things that set early gpw apart.....Wilson engine block with ford internals.generally, yes...but Ford was casting their own engine blocks fairly early on during the first contract...so a Wilson block on a VEP GPW is not an absolute. For example, engine # GPW-2263 is a Ford block while engine # GPW-2273 is a Wilson block, and GPW engine # GPW-5264 is a Ford block. split back seats GPWs did not use split back seats...that’s an MB feature low windshield GPWs used the standard size windshield throughout production. The low windshield was an early MB feature.
Mostly correct information...just added comments to a few points you mentioned for clarity. Hope this helps.
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by parker007 » Wed May 19, 2021 8:37 pm

Michael O. wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 7:31 pm
parker007 wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:18 am
things that set early gpw apart.....Wilson engine block with ford internals.generally, yes...but Ford was casting their own engine blocks fairly early on during the first contract...so a Wilson block on a VEP GPW is not an absolute. For example, engine # GPW-2263 is a Ford block while engine # GPW-2273 is a Wilson block, and GPW engine # GPW-5264 is a Ford block. split back seats GPWs did not use split back seats...that’s an MB feature low windshield GPWs used the standard size windshield throughout production. The low windshield was an early MB feature.
Mostly correct information...just added comments to a few points you mentioned for clarity. Hope this helps.

Im not always 100% correct but just say what my experiences see. I looked at gpw 2014 and it had low windshield that looked to be there for long time, and my 2 early gpws have wilson blocks number matching.

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Re: GPW 1533

Post by joostini » Thu May 20, 2021 12:07 am

Michael O. wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 7:08 pm
joostini wrote:
Wed May 19, 2021 11:04 am
Tnx Michael,

I have to search for some gauges then.
The DOD of gpw 1533 is februari 27th 1942

IMG-20210503-WA0017.jpg
Is there anything stamped in the box next to “Ford GPW”? I’m just trying to figure out which assembly plant yours came from.

I have GPW-2647, DoD 2-26-42 (Dearborn).
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hope this is enough information. hope to find out the plant my gpw was build :)

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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Michael O. » Thu May 20, 2021 8:04 am

Your GPW was assembled in Dallas, TX. Hope this helps.
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by joostini » Thu May 20, 2021 8:36 am

Michael O. wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:04 am
Your GPW was assembled in Dallas, TX. Hope this helps.
Thanks, but How do you know that?🙂

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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Michael O. » Thu May 20, 2021 10:10 am

joostini wrote:
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Thanks, but How do you know that?🙂

You have 4x4 stamped in your “mystery box”....which is why I asked about that in a previous post.

Do you feel your original registration number is still under the layers of paint? I would at least start sanding you hood to see if they are still there.
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by joostini » Fri May 21, 2021 6:48 am

Michael O. wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 10:10 am
joostini wrote:
Thu May 20, 2021 8:36 am
Thanks, but How do you know that?🙂

You have 4x4 stamped in your “mystery box”....which is why I asked about that in a previous post.

Do you feel your original registration number is still under the layers of paint? I would at least start sanding you hood to see if they are still there.
Tnx.

Sanded the hood. Light blue, dark blue , white, and then bare metal. Also on de back of the body. It was already Sanded down years ago i think. Now i never know the exact hoodnumber.

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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Ron Fitzpatrick » Wed Jun 16, 2021 1:53 pm

I have GPW-2647, DoD 2-26-42 (Dearborn).
I was going thru some of my files and it shows date of completion on this motor of Feb 25, 1942 along with 268 others motors that day...
motors were not sitting around long...
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Re: GPW 1533

Post by Humvee1 » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:07 am

I have 1999 which is very complete and original.
How do I tell if I have a Wilson block ?


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