Radiators - Early vs late
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Radiators - Early vs late
Hello all,
Is there a known difference between early, mid or late production GPW radiators? I would like to determine if my VEP has the "correct" radiator.
Brett
Is there a known difference between early, mid or late production GPW radiators? I would like to determine if my VEP has the "correct" radiator.
Brett
1942 VEP GPW, J-2 winch, BC-659, 1919a4
1945 GPW, 1943 MBT
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1945 GPW, 1943 MBT
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
I don’t know of any differences in Ford radiators, however, this is worth noting:
From jeepdraw: “Ford document show the MB radiator became optional on the GPW in late '43. Most '44 and '45 GPWs have been found with MB radiators”
From jeepdraw: “Ford document show the MB radiator became optional on the GPW in late '43. Most '44 and '45 GPWs have been found with MB radiators”
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
I did know some GPWs got MB radiators. My 45 GPW has an MB unit and I think it’s original to it.
I wonder if the ford made units changed at all during production. I have a few in storage and all are identical. I don’t have a clue as to what year GPWs they were from though.
Brett
I wonder if the ford made units changed at all during production. I have a few in storage and all are identical. I don’t have a clue as to what year GPWs they were from though.
Brett
1942 VEP GPW, J-2 winch, BC-659, 1919a4
1945 GPW, 1943 MBT
Sold - 1967 M151a1, 1943 MB, M416
www.ToThePointPolygraph.com
1945 GPW, 1943 MBT
Sold - 1967 M151a1, 1943 MB, M416
www.ToThePointPolygraph.com
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
Both GPW-712 and GPW-713 have the early slat grill style radiators with three ribs on the top. One of the ribs is where the filler cap is mounted. Neither is GPW marked.
GPW-712
GPW-713
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
I know of only one example but GPW 40 was present at the MVPA Convention last year and there was a GPW “F” medallion or disc soldered where there these markings would normally be embossed on the top tank. The upper radiator tube was mounted in a different manner to the top tank. Again, this was the only “GPW” radiator like this I have ever personally seen.
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
I have a 3 rib F marked radiator
the 3 rib should be early
The 4 rib late
Ernie
the 3 rib should be early
The 4 rib late
Ernie
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
Thanks Ernie,Ernie Baals wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 6:47 amI have a 3 rib F marked radiator
the 3 rib should be early
The 4 rib late
Ernie
I wonder what the cutoff should be?
Brett
1942 VEP GPW, J-2 winch, BC-659, 1919a4
1945 GPW, 1943 MBT
Sold - 1967 M151a1, 1943 MB, M416
www.ToThePointPolygraph.com
1945 GPW, 1943 MBT
Sold - 1967 M151a1, 1943 MB, M416
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
As far as I know, the breakdown on radiators is as follows.
MB:
Type I: slat grill style
Type II: second style which has a different way to secure the padding
Type III: third style which has "Z" shaped flanges spot welded to the side for the padding to fit into
GPW:
Type I: has GPW marking on the back of the top tank
Type II: is the same design as the MB Type III
I don't know of any second type with the GPW marking on the back of the top tank????
Mike Wright...what say ye of the GPW radiator progression?
MB:
Type I: slat grill style
Type II: second style which has a different way to secure the padding
Type III: third style which has "Z" shaped flanges spot welded to the side for the padding to fit into
GPW:
Type I: has GPW marking on the back of the top tank
Type II: is the same design as the MB Type III
I don't know of any second type with the GPW marking on the back of the top tank????
Mike Wright...what say ye of the GPW radiator progression?
Chuck Lutz
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GPW 17963 4/24/42 Chester, PA. USA 20113473 (USA est./Tom W.)
Bantam T3-C 1947
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
GPW had 2 style marked on the tank
3 rib and 4 rib
3 rib and 4 rib
Rip Dad 1/22/24 to 12/21/11
I will always love and miss you.
Ernie Baals MVPA 104C and 3104, AACA, SJC MVPA
Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured……but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen”
I will always love and miss you.
Ernie Baals MVPA 104C and 3104, AACA, SJC MVPA
Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured……but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen”
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
Here are pictures of 2 of my GPW F radiators
Both stamped F
Both stamped F
Rip Dad 1/22/24 to 12/21/11
I will always love and miss you.
Ernie Baals MVPA 104C and 3104, AACA, SJC MVPA
Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured……but not everyone
must prove they are a citizen”
I will always love and miss you.
Ernie Baals MVPA 104C and 3104, AACA, SJC MVPA
Fathom the hypocrisy of a Government
that requires every citizen to prove
they are insured……but not everyone
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
Hi Ernie,
Can you provide a photo of the GPW markings on 4 rib radiator?
Thanks
Mike
Can you provide a photo of the GPW markings on 4 rib radiator?
Thanks
Mike
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SEEKING MOTOR # GPW 2636
MVPA# 4341
GPW 2636, DOD 28 FEB 42, Reg# 2055811 (est)
GPW 104331 DOD 31 MAR 43, Reg# 20369321 (est)
MB-101008 DOD 27 NOV 41, Reg# W-2032462 (Original)
MB 438075, DOD 1 MAY 45, Reg# 20704591 (Original)
Converto ABN Dump 0886168
M2-HB gun trailer
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
I have a early gpw radiator but missing the Medallion
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
Jeff, do you have a photo?
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
GPW 2147
3 rib radiator
No gpw or F marking
3 rib radiator
No gpw or F marking
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Re: Radiators - Early vs late
Informative thread. Here is an image of the radiator that came with my April 42 GPW. I cannot verify if it is original to the frame as it was restored 18-ish years ago.
Oz
Feb 43 GPW 98532 USA 20206257
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http://gpw.castraponere.com/ (My Restoration Page)
Feb 43 GPW 98532 USA 20206257
Oct 70 Land Rover Series 2a 25334079G NZ16GF36
http://gpw.castraponere.com/ (My Restoration Page)
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