Here is a picture of some Airborne jeeps with windshields and rifle holders mounted like your jeep.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/britishje ... 618621333/
Hello Tony,msdt wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:03 amHi Ray,
Thanks for the reply. The reason I was interested in Emil's Jeep is that it has an original quick release steering wheel, and a horn button on the dashboard. It also appears to have British Army rebuild plates. My Jeep has both these features (well, the appropriate holes for the horn button). However, it has had a Class 1 rebuild, resulting in a Willys body on a Ford chassis. The problem is that the Ministry of Supply WV3 plate, and the REME (I believe) rebuild plate on the chassis rail have been removed, so I don't know the date of the rebuild.
I don't think it is an original WW2 airborne Jeep, but suspect the wheel and horn button have been added after the Class 1 rebuild during service in the 1950's. I am trying to discover if anyone has a similar Jeep with data plates that would help with this.
The British ERM is 49 YH 12, chassis number GPW 104712. I only got the ERM a few months ago, due the Royal Logistics Corps now being able to do a chassis number search.
I have attached some photos showing features from the British Army rebuild (round rear handles, seamless wing, Butler lights).
Hello Tony,msdt wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:42 amThanks, Ray - interesting info. And your British example also has the rounded rear handles! Actually, I remember from when I had them off that they were of thicker gauge than the original ones.
I am sure the chassis number is right, at 104712. This is also what the British Army recorded on the key card. I believe that number is around March, 1943. The Willys body number is 115945.
I have always assumed that the body has been swapped, but if there is a possibility that it was supplied from the factory that way, it rather changes all the speculation regarding the Jeep's history!
The missing tag on the front chassis rail exactly matches examples I have seen of REME Class 1 rebuild tags in brass, many of which seem to be 1949/1950/1951. What would be interesting to know is whether the REME Class 1 rebuilds were carried out on each Jeep as a unit, or as a factory process involving total dismantling and refurbishment of each part resulting in assembling vehicles from random parts.
Have attached the key card, showing the Jeep (or chassis?) marked as ex-Canadian. Sadly cannot read the rubbed out unit bit. And where is the 'BRN' at disposal?
msdt wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:54 amThanks Ray. Actually I have already been posting on British Army Jeep Research. While doing that I found the pic of Emil's Jeep, which lead to me posting here.
When I rubbed the bonnet (hood!) down, I am sure I only found a US number (20111900-S). This either supports the full dismantling rebuild, or that the bonnet has been swapped at some point.
BTW - I have owned this Jeep since 1972, and I bought it from a Welsh hill farm, so it's not been interfered with by other enthusiasts.
Hello Tony,msdt wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:11 amHi Ray,
I have been thinking of driving the Jeep back to the farm I got it from. Actually, it belonged to a friend of the farmer's son, so he is who I should speak to if he is still around or traceable. They didn't use this Jeep much, their real 'toy' was one that they used around the farm for extreme 4-WD antics. My present Jeep was bought as a replacement due to the clutch on the other one seizing one winter. They had no sooner got mine, when it surprisingly threw the centre main end bearing cap, knocking it through the side of the engine block. It was then left and vandalised by lads staying in a local youth hostel. They tried to push it into a stream, but it hit a tree on the way down the bank, and that was how it was when I first saw it.
It may have previously served with lifeguards on a nearby beach, somebody told me they remembered a Jeep on the beach in the 1960's. The Jeep was red when I got it, with a home-made white hardtop, and on the rear corner of the hardtop were 2 bits of scaffold tube welded on. These could have supported a flag-pole. Sadly, I didn't document all this with photographs back in 1972!
The original purchase was for 3 Jeeps, the 'good one' I still have, the beaten up one it replaced, and another bit of a rusty wreck on a nearby hill farm above the sea. Those were the days, £40 for the 3! A good buy even in 1972!
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