Early Gpw on MB Frame

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Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by WP1 » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:51 pm

Does this look like an early GPW on a Willys frame to you guys ? I know the pictures are crappy but you know how people are. Looks like solid rims, can't tell if it's Ford script tub. Dash has something over the center where the speedo/gauges go. Also looks like those really early military tires too.
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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by BERLIN RED » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:02 am

The body does not look script to me and may have a jerry can reenforcement. The frame and axles look post 1945 to me. I think cj3a. Tub looks pretty solid though.

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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by Klaas » Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:14 am

Agree with Berlin Red.
Chassis is postwar CJ. Rear axle is postwar (axle stubs). Cylinderhead is postwar. Body tub is Ford (rectangular toolbox lock recess) but can't see if it is scripted.
Nice set of parts and depending on price if it is worth the hassle of finding all the other bits for CJ and /or GPW depending on what you want to end up with.
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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by WP1 » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:26 pm

yes now I see it's a CJ frame, waiting for more pictures of the tub to see if it's worth it, thanks for the extra sets of eyes!

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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by Wolfman » Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:47 am

CJ.
Also noted.
It has the fuel tank filler neck hole on the outside left, below the grab handle. The fuel tank is flat. It has a glove box of sort, but it does not look right. Wrong size, location and looks like it was cut out with a cold chisel. I'm thinking that is not original or military. Can't see if there is a storage box with lid under the passenger seat.
Wondering about the tool box lid. Don't see one on the right. ??? Like maybe the one on the left is just laying there ???
Steering bell crank is on the front frame cross member.
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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by Klaas » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:56 am

Mike, the right hand toolbox with rectangular recess for the lock and lid is just visible beneath the straw/reeds on top of it.
It looks like it has been (neatly) modified for the external fuel filler as it has the slots for shovel and axe in the correct place.

Would love some better pictures as well, as these do not show enough details to determine the exact type of body.
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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by Wolfman » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:49 am

This gets more interesting, the more I look at it, Klaas.
I had a 46 CJ in the shop, not long ago, that had a left hand, outside fuel filler and still had the indents for the axe and shovel. My 47 CJ does not have the indents.
Be interesting to see if it has a fuel tank well in the floor under the drivers seat or the floor is flat.
Then we are back to the tool boxes and a glove box.
More pictures would be good.
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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by David Hughes » Sun Mar 01, 2020 5:02 am

Any updated info on this vehicle?
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Re: Early Gpw on MB Frame

Post by Ronnie Guin » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:21 am

Everything I see tells me this is a Ford GPW body on a CJ frame. Body has GPW tool box lids and toolbox lock indent is present on right side lid. Glovebox area looks correct, gage area has had a modification with a plate or something put over them.

Can’t tell but the rear panel might have the script Ford in it when I try to zoom in?
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