WTB: GP Dash guage cluster

Michael O. · Post by **Michael O.** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 1:40 am

Anyone have any leads on a GP dash guage cluster? I know they are the same used on civilian trucks of the era, but can't seem to find a good one. Thanks.

Bryan · Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 7:29 am

I saw a nice one on a 39 ford pick up at a local car swap, Bryan

DavidA · Post by **DavidA** » Mon Jun 09, 2003 8:29 pm

UHhhhhhhhh...walked into one of the firehouses at the city I work in and they have a 40 Ford fire engine there that I swear has the correct one. It is a cherry too. 0-60 mph on a truck that never moves. bummer.

Alex Schmidt · Post by **Alex Schmidt** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 2:20 am

0-60 MPH. is the wrong cluster !!! it should be 0-100 and there's 3 different models/makes, and only one will fit the GP, so be carefull.

Alex Schmidt

DavidA · Post by **DavidA** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 7:10 pm

Thanks. Was talkin to another GP owner and he says 41 ford. Hmmm..everyday something new.

Nevertheless, that '40 fire truck was fun to look at.

Thanks for the correction.

D:arrow:

Brian Wolf · Post by **Brian Wolf** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 8:40 pm

Lex,
I understand 0 - 100 and I agree on the 41' Ford since the part numbers are 11c numbers, But specifically which would be the GP one? Are you refering to the waltham versus others? How does one identify the three differnt types?

Has anyone found a good source for spedo restoration or decal type overlays for this speedo?

Michael O. · Post by **Michael O.** » Tue Jun 10, 2003 11:05 pm

So does anyone know where I can get a good one?

John W. Rymark · Post by **John W. Rymark** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 6:00 am

Dear Mike,
I, like many others, swear by ebay. I picked up a nice 41 pickup cluster with 100 mph speedo on ebay. Also picked up a lot of nos gauges, same place. My GP had a 60 mph cluster in it as found. Don't want to get into the B.S. regarding 60 mph v.s. 100 mph. I've watched the debate between two good people, each with extensive GP knowledge, debate this point until the rest of us either laugh or cry when its brought up again.

Mike, the problem is I don't think there were many 41 pickups. Also, the hot rod crowd love that speedo cluster for their projects (late 40s, 50s, even now). That said, keep plugging on ebay as you attend old car or MV swap meets. Good luck and good hunting, John Rymark GP14536.

Brad Gates · Post by **Brad Gates** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:09 pm

Mike and other GP folks,
I got a refurbished cluster from the folks at Baxter Ford Parts in Lawrence, KS. A gentleman from NH, Howard Towne, who does Ford truck restoration referred me to them. I don't remember the fellows name at Baxter Ford but he was very knowledgable about the correct oil pressure guage. I cant tell you specifics about how the cluster mounts to the dash as I haven't gotten to that point yet of my restoration. I am very pleased with the unit I received. Brian, the cluster I got does not have the Waltham name but I think it could be done. All the guages appear to be NOS. The phone number is 785-842-9256. Let us know how you do. Good Luck BRAD

Brian Wolf · Post by **Brian Wolf** » Wed Jun 11, 2003 8:49 pm

Brad,
the reason I ask about the overlays is becuase the 1940 ford cluster as well as 1939 I believe was the same configuration and shape, just different color gauges. Thought that might be a reasonable and affordable alternative as it allows one to search out several diffent years models.

Michael O. · Post by **Michael O.** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 2:49 pm

Brad, how much was the refurbished cluster you received? What exactly should one ask for when they call?

Brad Gates · Post by **Brad Gates** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 8:01 pm

Evening Guys,
Ask for a 1941 Ford PU gauge cluster with the 4 cyl. engine. Be specific about 50 psi. oil press. guage. I believe price was $250. plus if you don't have a core, so to speak, there is an additional charge. I had a 1940 core to turn in.
Brian, I feel the overlay would be a lot of tedious work, as the little guages, the speedo, and the face plate are all different than the '41 cluster. There could possibly be a difference in the hole size, or opening, of the speedo. But I no longer have a '40 cluster to verify this.
I found some NOS guages at the Ford Carlisle meet last month, but no complete clusters. If your interested I still have an oil press. guage avail. for $45.00
BRAD

gpman1941@hotmail.com · Post by **gpman1941@hotmail.com** » Sat Jun 21, 2003 5:00 am

Brian-I had Reynolds Speedometer repair do my GP's about 10 years ago--he has moved to Naples Fl--he might be able to help you

Jim Gilmore · Post by **Jim Gilmore** » Sun Aug 03, 2003 8:12 pm

Guys...........

There is no debate on GP speedos. ONLY THE 11C 0 to 100 mph UNIT IS CORRECT.

Period!

Only the first hand built pilot GP used the 11T 0 to 60 speedo. ONLY that one. (and the pygmy and BUDD prototypes)

ALL production GP's used the 11C speedo.

1 = 1941
1 = 90 hp V-8 motor
C = commerical (pick up truck)

The 0 to 60 11T speedo is for a FOUR SPEED truck and has the four speed shift points right on the face.

The GP has a THREE SPEED transmission.

If you order a speedo for a 4 cylinder pick up truck you may get a 11T speedo as this is what the 1NC and 2NC 4 cylinder trucks used.

Hope this sorts the speedo confusion out.

Jim Gilmore

Sean · Post by **Sean** » Mon Aug 25, 2003 5:46 am

Hi Guys, is this the cluster you are talking about. If so let me know and I'll direct you to who has it for sale.

Cheers Sean

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