Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Michael Browne » Sat Aug 25, 2012 3:41 am

Here are a couple for you :)
There's quite a bit of information missing from the list, so if anyone can help it would be appreciated.
1. BATTERY CABLE & EARTH ATTACHMENT
2. BATTERY HOLD DOWNS
3. BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER
4. BRAKE - CLUTCH PEDALS A photo would be appreciated.
5. BRAKE PLATES - INSIDE - "
6. BRAKE SHOES & Hardware Attaching Ancillaries
7. BRAKE SLAVE CYLINDERS natural cast
8. BRAKE SPRINGS
9. CANVAS - TOP (Hood)
10.CANVAS - SEATS & SPRING CONSTRUCTION
11.DRIVE (Propeller) SHAFTS - Front & Rear (Sizes and a Photo maybe !) small diameter front & rear
12. EARTH STRAPS & Earthing Points on the body and parts
13. FAN BELT
14. FAN BELT PULLEY SHIELD (If fitted) not fitted
15.FUEL FILTER AC natural body with brass bowl
16.FUEL LINES 1/4" tube zinc plated
17.FUEL TANK
18.GEARSHIFT BOOTS (Material & Colour) not fitted
19.GENERATOR (Brand & Model) Ford
20.GENERATOR BRACKET to ENGINE Colour bracket part of engine front casting
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Brian Wolf » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:30 pm

You could really say that that the pulley shield is brazed to the radiator. It seems that the fuel filter bowls have been both a brass finish, and almost a gold finish of some kind. The gold ones appear to be older. They used the brass ones into the 1960s. AC made them.

I have been kicking around the idea, (and perhaps it could be in a part of Jons great website) of a detailed catalog of the GP by part number. It would be a big project, but basically it would be an electronic version of the GP parts manual, but instead of tiny drawings (if your lucky), it would be click-able links to an actual photo or photos of the part or assembly. and those that Jon has drawn could be annotated as well. It would be a "moderated wiki GP manual "so to speak. Whadaya think?
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Jon » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:41 pm

Thanks Michael and Brian.
I've just added that info to the Parts Colours page.
If by chance others can check what's missing and help fill the gaps.......photos always appreciated btw. All photos should be big enough to get the clarity it deserves.
I'm still working on the scans sent, but the last few days has been spent building a home addition for one of my sons, so I've been away.
It would be a "moderated wiki GP manual "so to speak. Whadaya think
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What ever can be done to help others is always a good idea Brian.
I'm currently holder of the G503.com Wiki keys for the GPW & MB as spammers hit the G503.com MVPA Judging Standard here on the Gee so it was moved to another section of the Gee. ie. JeepDraw so any changes could be made that spammers couldn't get in and destroy it.
That Wiki is here. http://www.jeepdraw.com/wiki.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A Wiki on the GP would be a great advantage for current and future owners...
In three words. Go For It !
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Michael Browne » Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:29 am

Hi Brian,

The pulley guard in the standard jeep is bolted to the sump at the front. The GP doesn't have one of these.

It does however have a fan guard soldered to the radiator top tank :wink:

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by jag » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:27 am

Jon, I am happy to send you detailed photos of my GP that is restored to a high standard with matching engine, chassis and dataplate numbers. Of course, not as good as original factory or period photos though better than no pics at all! Let me know.


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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Jon » Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:00 am

Absolutely.!!!!! Send away.........

If you look at the others...... the GPW and the MB profiles, you'll get the idea of what's really needed...basically, parts and finishes....
I steal from Ebay photos, contributors like yourself and occasionally photos I take myself. I think the nearest GP is about 500k's down the track from me, so it makes it a little hard to get pics.

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Brian Wolf » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:01 am

Michael Browne wrote:Hi Brian,

The pulley guard in the standard jeep is bolted to the sump at the front. The GP doesn't have one of these.

It does however have a fan guard soldered to the radiator top tank :wink:

Regards :)

Oh those insignificant little details....just kidding
I stand corrected. Thanks michael. Glad to see you around the forums more again. I will pm you with a question
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Michael Browne » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:10 am

Hello All,
Oh those insignificant little details....just kidding
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, they can be a real nuisance :wink:

Yes Gindi, the GP has a plate bolted to the frame under the fan # GP8240 Apron - radiator splash

More of a water deflector than a pulley shield to keep water from being splashed around by the fan.

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by jag » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:00 pm

Hi Folks, it has been a while since I made this post. Based on Brad's observations it appears both gearbox and transfer case housing were OD. I have a good friend restoring his GP now and he has asked me the same question. Just re checking to see if any additional info has surfaced. I know that Jon has on his Jeepdraw grey for the gearbox housing, OD for the transfer case like the GPW.

Would appreciate any additional feedback.

regards,

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by jag » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:01 pm

Hi Folks, it has been a while since I made this post. Based on Brad's observations it appears both gearbox and transfer case housing were OD. I have a good friend restoring his GP now and he has asked me the same question. Just re checking to see if any additional info has surfaced. I know that Jon has on his Jeepdraw grey for the gearbox housing, OD for the transfer case like the GPW.

Would appreciate any additional feedback.

regards,

John

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Schultzd » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:44 am

For what it is worth. I am just now cleaning up my original trf case and tranny on GP9275. Both are OD. I am curious about the fuel bowl. I believe my original has a glass bowl with no internal filter. Is this correct or is brass correct?

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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Brian Wolf » Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:59 am

Dan,
The fuel bowl is Brass and has a filter composed of about an inch of stacked brass plates.
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Schultzd » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:27 am

Thanks Brian. Are these available anywhere?
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by Brian Wolf » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:14 am

The bowls were used on other fuel pumo/filter combinations. Maybe Dodge? They were also an AC product used into the 1970s. I do not know the part number though.
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Re: Correct GP Gearbox/TransferCase Colours

Post by jag » Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:20 am

Thanks for feedback on the gearbox and transfer case colours. Do you have the original colour for the bell housing?

Re the fuel bowls, as Brian indicated they are usually brass. Mine was brass and developed a hairline crack. I purchased a NOS replacement (same brand an AC) from Brad Gates. This appears to be steel with some form of yellowish plating. It is post war. Similar fuel filters were used on other US vehicles.
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