M38A1 paint...clear coat??

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M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:03 pm

Hello everyone,

I painted my M38A1 about couple months ago and I thought I had the right paint for it. So, I wrongly put flat OD green on it.

After total restoration, I didnt want to repaint everything including frame, axles, etc. because I know I haven't put the right paint on it. It would be sad to remake all marking I made.

Surely, in a couple years I will repaint it in semi gloss.

So here's my question... Do you know if the shades of OD green will be a little bit darker if I put a clear coat on the entire body?

I'm confused, I would love that my jeep looks more like the US original (if clear coat can help) but if it doesnt work, I dont want to scrap my curent paint that is only 5 months old😬😬$$$$$$

Thanks all,
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Nov 16, 2019 5:41 am

Clear coat will not be the answer, leave it as it is, there will be a point in time where you tire of it and will repaint it. 24087 is most common US Army repaint, 2430 is Factory original.
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:30 am

It's not that bad... just not the exact right one

And I dont know how to post a pic here, it says it is too large

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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:07 pm

Posting is tricky for me also.What shade of O.D. Did you use?
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:42 pm

I used flat OD

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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:52 pm

I'd say it looks pretty similar to the first pic of the side of the A1 down the page on Kaiser jeep blog :https://blog.kaiserwillys.com/military-jeep-markings

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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by dpcd67 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:37 am

Depends on the year of your jeep; pre 56 it would have been 2430 (now 34070), and post 56 and rebuilds are 24087.
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:25 am

Here's mine with a bit of glare.
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:00 pm

Yea, I have the same paint but with a different shade. I used flat OD :/

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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:33 pm

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Here's another interior shot showing contrast of factory paint on instrument panel and the 24087.
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:53 pm

Great looking!!

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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:03 pm

You can do the same.24087 is a great color for the M-38A1
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:32 pm

I'm from canada

I dont want to repaint it at this time because I finished the restoration in august and my paint is only about 4 months old...

I found how to downsize pictures!! Here is my jeep!

Got my canvas top, jut need to be installed!
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:38 pm

Your M-38A1 is beautiful. The US Army could not make it look any better.

Not every repaint done in US ARMY shops was done in 24087, The M-Day Motorpool at Ft Dix back in 1960 had fresh repaints that appeared to be Shade 319. I still have a couple gallons of original 319 Enamel. I used some on my Ben Hur.
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Re: M38A1 paint...clear coat??

Post by Gabriel » Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:58 pm

Thank you :)

I was just disappointed by the shade it took. I'm 20 and just beggining in military vehicule restoration so I will take it as an experience!

I'm still pretty proud of the jeep itself and paint job look incredible even if it isnt the shade I wanted!

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