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1943 MB/MZ

Post by walt s » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:40 pm

Hello Mark , thanks for the reply. Will start here !
Hello folks , working on a 1943 MB/MZ body #3719 frame tag MB 289026, which I don't see listed. Tub is off frame and complete, frame is restored. Motor is out for boring and rebuild. drive line is rebuilt! Any additional info you can add is appreciated . thanks walt before photos
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Re: 1943 MB/MZ

Post by 70th Division » Wed Feb 17, 2021 4:24 pm

Hello Walt,


Welcome to the G !!!

You have a great looking jeep, with its super rare original front bumper :D :D :D
Most all are long ago missing from most jeeps.
Your looks like it has been well cared for the last 75 years or so !!
A great piece of rolling history !!

Looking forward to your restoration pictures and jeep adventures when done !!

Best Regards,
Ray

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Post by walt s » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:45 pm

on the way !
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Post by walt s » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:57 pm

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Thanks Ray, interesting markings , any thoughts , white regular army 15G014 ? yellow USMC field markings, 156014 ?

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Post by 70th Division » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:35 pm

Hello Walt,

Very Nice !!
You have your original hood numbers, many people don't !
I think that you have a USMC WW2 Jeep :D :D

It looks like USMC in front of your hood number.
Can you put some oil on that to see what the letters are ?
Either USMC, or USN .

The number on the rim is also likely something done by the USMC and US Navy .

There are many experts here on the G for your exact type jeep .
Hopefully they will see this and add their valuable input on your jeeps history.

You may even find the Unit Markings on the sides of the jeep, and also the bottom of the windshield front.
The USMC usually painted their Marine Division symbol on the windshield, and also the left rear back panel :D


Keep us posted, you look like you are on the way !!

Also keep in mind, the nature of the Marine Corps and they way the took care of the vehicles, and what they had, it is possible that your jeep may have been in the Pacific, and shipped back to the USA after the war.
The Marines kept what they had, and had a much smaller budget compared to the Army !!

Hopefully some one can find or has a picture of your jeep with your hood number :D :D

Best Regards,
Ray

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Re: 1943 MB/MZ

Post by Mark Tombleson » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:19 pm

Hi again, Walt, and welcome!

I think my greatest help to you is this 7 page link!

viewtopic.php?f=84&t=171336

On page 2 of the above link I post another 5 page link.

Finally the Book... volume 2 chapter 15 and 16. It also talks about Army radios. Not sure where you can find it but if your serious having it will help you.

https://jeep1942.com/?page_id=2501

On the bodies passenger side will be the original USMC number, just above and below the grab handle. It is possible you have a replacement hood as I see early hood blocks there. it should ba around USMC 53000+.

Look carefully at the links and show us photos confirming the MZ radio jeep body and frame as several of your photos won't enlarge when I click on them.

I'm sure you will have questions and I'm willing to help if Im' able. :D
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Post by walt s » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:52 am

Hello Ray and Mark, thank you both ,i checked the posts and links , hood is already refurbed , body and frame too! Hood looks like army first USMC later, wheel and hood match USMC. No data plates glovebox lid was gone. here are a couple more photos as the blaster finished (last summer). Have the PTO, generator and regulator for the radio equip. will try to find/mfg battery boxes and radio boxes, MZ-1 or 2 ?
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Re: 1943 MB/MZ

Post by 70th Division » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:41 am

Hello Walt,


You are well under way for sure on getting your jeep restored !!

If you haven't started on repairing your front floor, which looks pretty good, here is an idea for you.
Your floors look totally repairable !!
If you carefully cut above the big hat channel that is rusted through, where you see the wood still, trim the
the floor metal from above , but only half the width of the area where the original hat channel was spot welded to the floor, the "tabs" on each side of the hat channel that actually touch the floor and are spot welded to the floor.

That way you will be able to make a patch for the floor that when you weld it in, it will be welded to the top edge of the existing, or new hat channel.
It will produce 1 seam that will not be seen from below and save you a bunch of work !!

Many people cut the rotted away floor, above the hat channel too wide, and when a new channel is fitted, end up with a patch that needs attention from above and below.
If you can, use the hat channel tabs as a base to weld the existing trimmed floor edge, with the edge of you new floor patch, it will work out great !!

You can use this method to actually install your new hat channels from above, tacking them to the existing trimmed back edges of the original floor that looks to be good steel still.

It also will make a nice strong joint between the hat channel, the original floor edge, and your new metal patch.


I hope that makes sense !!

It also goes for the other rotted through hat channels.

Once you get your repair patches nicely welded in and ground back smooth, I would highly recommend this product to smooth over and make perfect your repairs any where on the jeep, then sand this stuff smooth.
Prime a couple times and paint :D :D

I wait about 2 days before sanding this stuff to give plenty of time to harden and cure.

I then put multi layers of primer and paint on my jeep floors, and it holds up and wears great.

I like to give a couple days between paint on the floor, to dry and cure.

That way your floor will be protected while in use, and good for another 75 years of Jeeping :D :D
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This is a metallic based filler, and it hardens rock solid, and will never absorb water , and flake off.

Also if you have any pitting on the floor, blast them white clean and use this on them !!

I would never, ever use bondo on a jeep, period !!

Looks like an ACM type 1 body tub :D

Keep up your great works !!

Best Regards,
Ray

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Re: 1943 MB/MZ

Post by walt s » Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:29 pm

Thanks Ray, front and rear floor and transition were shot! I will find a use for the evercoat, thanks for the tip! Every spot weld cut out plug welded and reground ! This body still has a lot of age related "beauty" marks including a 30 cal. hole in it!
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