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looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by Lucianom38a1 » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:40 pm

Hello all!


I´m looking for the "inverted" mb/gpw bellcrank type, to be used with the capstan winch. Any idea where to find it?

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by parker007 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 1:25 am

i need one to. i don't have a original to compare but i was wondering if it possible to weld holes and machine from other side so standard one is same?

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by Bart1015 » Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:16 am

Luciano and Parker007,

I was in the same situation. I initially brought my original bell crank to a machine shop and they told me there was enough material to machine it without welding it up. But, I guess welding it would ensure you have enough material.

I ended up buying the correct bell crank from a shop based in the Netherlands. I think it was this place: https://www.wildenbergparts.nl

You could also reach out to these guys: https://www.capstanwinch.com

I just looked at their webpage and couldn't find anything for the Bradon winch. You might need to give them a call or send them and email.

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by parker007 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:09 pm

Bart was the original and the one you buy same except the taper direction?

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by Bart1015 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:59 pm

parker007 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:09 pm
Bart was the original and the one you buy same except the taper direction?
Yes, exactly the same. Different taper direction.

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by parker007 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:03 pm

Bart1015 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:59 pm
parker007 wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:09 pm
Bart was the original and the one you buy same except the taper direction?
Yes, exactly the same. Different taper direction.

Brett
good news ,that means it not to hard to just cut new taper . i have been looking for one for 2 years and just missed 2.

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by Lucianom38a1 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:46 am

Brett, nice tip!

I need to find a safe way to invert the taper direction.

Honestly, I'm afraid to simply fullfill the holes with solder, to drill a new tapered hole in another direction. I´m not sure if it would change the temper of such critical structural part.

It may be safer just to drill through the taper holes and to crimp a conical bushing, made specificallly in an lathe machine, appointing in another direction.

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by dpcd67 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:20 pm

Never weld on a bell crank, but this is for a winch so it might not matter. But solder as indicated above, would quickly wear out. Personally, I would machine a new tapered bushing, drill out the original straight, and tack weld or pin the bushing in the hole. Best of both worlds.
I can alter them if I had the reamer. Maybe I should get one and go into the business.......
What do they sell for? What is the demand?
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Post by Bruce W » Thu Oct 21, 2021 2:23 pm

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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by dpcd67 » Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:31 pm

I don't mean what do reamers sell for; I have 100 of them. I mean, what do the bell cranks sell for and what is the demand for them.
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Re: looking for MB/GPW bellcrank for capstan winch

Post by Bruce W » Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:32 pm

dpcd67 wrote:
Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:31 pm
I don't mean what do reamers sell for; I have 100 of them. I mean, what do the bell cranks sell for and what is the demand for them.
I didn’t put that there for you.
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