John Emery, Steering joints

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John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Wbdisco » Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:40 am

Been quite a while since I’ve been on, and was trying to email John about some parts but the email I have keeps saying undeliverable. Anyone have an updated email?

Part 2, has anyone found a suitable replacement for ball joint ends? Mine are shot and I need to fix them. My mule is a worker so I don’t need oem honestly. Any atv joints that work, or heim joint replacements? Trying to find something to get this thing back going for firewood season


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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by emmado22 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 5:57 am

Ebay has the long tie rod ends
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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Chuck W. » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:50 am

John Emery: emerymulesupply@attnet Ph: (262) 567-5606

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Check this thread, I did TGA's tie rod mod to my mule and could not be happier.

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Wbdisco » Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:55 pm

I had that email, but for some reason it kept getting returned undeliverable. Thanks

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Chuck W. » Mon Sep 19, 2022 6:23 pm

Just call and leave a message, he'll call you back, that's the best way. Last time I talked to John, he was really busy with his "real" job!

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Wbdisco » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:43 am

I saw that heim joint mod before but I don’t have a way of making a tapered bushing. Has anyone produced these or are they all one offs?

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Mike_W » Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:30 am

There is a post by Muleman ( Charles Witt ) but I cannot seem to search it out. I don't remember if it is here or on the Technical board. He used a shop press and a homemade adapter to remove the slop from tie rod ends. If someone has more luck than I have had in finding the post, it might be good to revive it. Seemed like a good fix for extending the life of tie rod ends.
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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Chuck W. » Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:39 pm

Has anyone produced these or are they all one offs?
As far as I know, no. They are not hard to make if you have a small lathe.

Mike, I couldn't find it, either, but I did find the tool I made based on the one Charles showed me. It works pretty good and will tighten up the joints.
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Post by bms07 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:24 pm

Just talked to John tonight. I never have problems getting a hold of him. If he don't answer I leave a message and he calls me back.
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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Mike_W » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:31 am

Chuck,

Can you provide the dimensions for the tool? My lathe is in need of some exercise and it looks like this would be a good project.

ID:
OD:
Length:
Lip Width (distance between the inside bore edge and the base of the taper):
Taper angle:

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Chuck W. » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:54 am

Mike, I will be glad to, but may take a few days, have several doctor appointments the rest of the week, my social calendar is full! :D

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Chuck W. » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:20 pm

Mike, when I made this, I just used whatever scrap was in the box. Length is 4-3/4", OD is 7/8" and the center hole is 1/2" and is about 2" deep. Looks like the angle is about 35 degrees, and the inside lip width is about 1/16". I don't think any of these need to be dead-nuts on. I just took an old tie-rod end and machined a piece until it fit and gave me a good crush in the press. I just knurled the bottom to make it look like a fancy tool! :D

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Mike_W » Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:22 am

Thanks Chuck,

I have some old axle shafts of various diameters I use for things like this. Pretty strong metal and takes a little longer to turn but will be good for this. And yes, there will be knurling involved.... :D
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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Chuck W. » Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:30 am

Just don't use any long mule axle shafts, John tells me they are now pretty much extinct. He's working on a way to salvage used ones with worn seal surfaces, either metal spray buildup and turndown or a machined wear sleeve of some sort. He has NOS short shafts, but no long shafts.

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Re: John Emery, Steering joints

Post by Mike_W » Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:31 am

Good to know about the axles but I wasn't referring to mule axles. I was talking about some old truck and tractor axles that I have lying around and use to turn parts. Mule parts are one thing I don't cut up.
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