Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Ernie Baals » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:21 pm

Hi All
MB 103331 fat
MB 114975 skinny

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Post by Jon » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:25 pm

Jon wrote:
Jon wrote:Updated....
Last edited by Jon on Wednesday 16th February 2011 6.18am Australian Eastern Standard Time
The List as it stands at the moment is below.......

100001
100005
100018 THIN
100046 Bresnehan Timothy
100063 Todd Paisley FAT
100064 Richard Post
100090 Craig Regnier
100118 Bill Oakes THIN
100122 Leonard Nettles THIN
100177 John James

100212 Fred Smith / UK
100422
100212
100313 Ralph Utermoehlen
100513
100532 Adrian Robins
100590
100629
100630
100644 Andrew Donohue
100665 Chris Fourroux THIN

100672 Joe Hall
100682 Wayne Milburn
100718 Bill Oakes THIN
100720 Dave Ashby THIN
100726 G User Member Willys41 -THIN -
100751 Bill W-Lebanon
100755
100798
100830
100836 Russell
100948 Dizon
100956
100965 D'abadie
101008 Hank Snow THIN
101060
101084
101088
101134
101145
101155
101163
101193 Michael J. Boyle THIN
101256 Andy Lang THIN
101336 Fuzz
101348
101350
101421
101432
101548
101559
101610 Cormack
101634
101647
101694 Howard
101746
101752
101780 Jed Rotella
101793
101807 Ian Coxhall THIN
101842
101844
101893
101895 Marc Houtch , LU
101948 Larry Loyd THIN
102019
102044
102081
102109
102153
102155 Brennon Magee [PARTS JEEP - NO SHAFTS]
102157
102171
102175 Scott Carpenter THIN
102190
102223 Andy Laborde THIN Vehicle Since Sold
102321
102342
102367 G503 Member "Dogtags" THIN
102368
102376 Chris Fourroux THIN
102382 Brennon Magee THIN
102386 Rune Pedersen THIN
102393
102411
102460
102476
102492
102519 Adrian Hardgrave
102515 Marc Vezin
102544
102554
102557 Luc Coesens , BE THIN
102640 Louie Larson 12/10/41 FAT
102669
102681
102682 Clifford FAT
102743 Steve Bump THIN
102762
102811
102840 Mrwizard
102868 Chuck Lutz
102743
102796
102811
102856
102868
102900 Brian Routh
102916
102944 AS Pijper THIN
102951
103013 TAD
103050
103073 Mikeo
103089 Ricksslats
103128 Wendy
103316
103331 Ernie Baals FAT
103332
103352 Tad
103355 Frank Berg , NO
103357
103381
103405 Jim M. THIN drive shaft but through a couple of rebuilds.
103409
103411 Todd Paisley FAT
103474 Frank Berg
103468
103486
103500 Mark Darling
103507 Peter Clark ( Thailand)
103509
103522
103545 END LOW WINSHIELDS
103576 Sébastien Lacave , FR
103605 Eegon Baatz , NL
103606
103616
103655
103661
103667
103677 Tim King Wiscounsin , USA
103709 GI Jeeps FAT
103761 Matt Littlepage
103768
103839
103900
103907
103916
103947
103956
103959
103971 Bentzinger
104xxx LUC ? THIN
104028
104064
104065
104085
104135
104151 Frederick P. Jamann
104167 Peyrol
104178
104274 HOBO , GE
104328
104407
104484 Kees Vandriel
104507
104513

104585 Mine Laughing

104588 Robert Killby
104589
104624 Ponticat
104658 Hulin
104664
104665
104711
104716
104726
105xxx
105018
105064
105074
105106
105111 http://www.jeepest.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , FR
105143
105151
105193
105231 Scot Carpenter THIN
105232
105312
105263
105340 THIN
105363
105377
105440
105472 JnealSC THIN...Amended 28Oct06
105533 Rick Goldman
105557
105566
MB 105647 Matt Stokes THIN
105655
105717 Kevin B. / Netherland
105734
105770 Didier Fanet (FR)
105795
105856 David R. Ahrens THIN Previously owned by Tom Wolboldt
105879 Christophe Chevalet , FR THIN
105993
106016 John Griffin
106085
106104
106112
106128 Jacco Van Snippenberg , NL THIN Replaced by Fat in the 70's
106148
106188
106245 Jim Kilbourne THIN
106351 Ricksslats
106375
106411
106477
106522
106535
106584 Bill Rountree
106600 Brennon Magee THIN
106636
106729
106735
106763
106800
106838 Noah Middleton
107016
107034
107057 Todd Paisley FAT
107176
107195
107247
107398
107407
107453
107507
107524
107548
107556 Dino ! THIN
107653
107676
107684
107698
107699
107791 Russell Moore
107849
107862 Carl Laney
107866 http://www.ewarbirds.org/jeep.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
107930 Ricksslats
107968
107973 Brian Alexander
108065
108171
108177
108267
108271
108299\
108305 Greg Panico FAT
108308 Charles Pelkey FAT
108350 Cantero Gabriele / Italy
108446
108452 END EARLY 3-RIB RADIATOR
108525 Wayne Milburn
108613
108679
108809
108824
108855
108924
108973 Earle
109036 Noah Middleton
109069
109169
109205
109385
109394
109839 Wayne Groot
109921
109922
109964 Al Delsid
110153
110166
110169 Hal Joyce THIN
110197
110216
110237
110247 David Mossou , NL
110267
110357 Scott David
110373
110427
110481
110515
110524 Norway
110531
110564 Dave K THIN
110575
110600
110629 George Sellen , Australia
110660
110702
110725 Fred Smith / UK
110755
110882
110934
111050 Andy Lang THIN
111101
111158
111191
111209
111345
111473
111532
111627 Darth Kitten THIN
111645
111744 Bob Conner
111755
111766
111802
111824
111867
111990
112003 Alexander Milburn
112054 Ken Pugh
112066 Eimar Singdahlsen
112080
112131
112145
112196
112200
112219
112260
112420
112271
112480
112484
112520
112540
112634
112761
112805
112815
112829
112925 FILTER IS ADDED ON THE VOLTAGE REGULATOR
113037
113039
113097
113167
113184 Todd Paisley FAT
113326
113367
113448
113511
113543

113628
113710
113801
113849
113943
114005 Joe Ellis
114043
114065
114180
114550 END OF EARLY OIL FILLER TUBE & DIPSTICK n°639555
114551
114620
114640 G503 Member "Brandon" THIN
114680 Ricksslats
114708
114755
114795 Ernie Baals THIN
114799
114864 Adrian Robins
114955
114978
114980 Joe Ellis
114995
114997
115058 Brian Earp THIN
115092
115113
115138 Chris Fourroux FAT
115164
115178
115184
115197
115262
115299
115300
115408
115466 Macario (Argentina) FAT Previously owned by Hector Cicerchia
115564 John Griffin
115712 Brian Hoopes
115777 Russ Rice
115812
115823
115863
115878
115934 Adrian Robins
116141
116180
116182 Tom Furrer
116207
116245
116292 Ducky
116333 Doug Marx
116334
116348
116378
116396 Matt Littlepage
116636
116692 Doug Marx
116719
116723
116786
116847
116882 Cincpoa
116961
117027
117028
117029
117060
117085
117381
117397
117439
117512
117620
117640
118217
117996
118289
118299
118513 Ken Clay FAT
118599 END OF DOUBLE TOOLBOX HINGES
118600
118650 Billy Bivens
118690
118754 Ron Mc Mullin
118768 Marc Belanger / Canada
118794
118865
118884
118973
119021
119161
119221
119236
119284 Frank Berg , Norway, THIN
119343 Barry Hampton FAT
119367
119481
119512
119514
119542
119608
119643 AS Pijper Thin
119670
119769 David Villas
119793 Tony Sudds
119780
119898
119920
119935
119948
119949 Marc Belanger / Canada
119955 Scot Carpenter THIN
120135
120143
120177 Jason Meade
120264
120452 Ton Gates / UK
120599
120475
120562 Jamie M.
120602
120680 END OF SLATGRILLS WITHOUT GLOVEBOX
120697
120700 END OF SOLID RIMS
120795
121000
121060
121130
121165
121451
121592
121733 Phil Hagan
122000
122005
122043
122112
122381
122485 Travis
122530
122533 Thomas Jacobson FAT
122609
122641
122793 Howard Everett
122876 Iowa FAT
122888
122947 Jim M.
123103 Willy Leys , BE
123136 Todd Paisley FAT
123214
123350
123366 Bill Eldred FAT
123474 Mike Wade
123476
123502
123576
124134
124143 Ed Servaas
124234
124242
124309 END OF AC PANCAKE AIRCLEANER
124393
124533
124566
124625
124630 John Russell
124675 Fouan David
124805 Mike Bonner
124820
124833
124850
124856 Tony ?
124930
124951
124991 Charlie Saguier
124995 Bob Rahberg
124997 Steve Ellis dod 3-4-42 FAT
124998 Matthew Carver
125404
125449 Ed Schommer
125463
125672
125691 AJ ...?
125731
125809 END OF SLATTED GRILL JEEPS / BEGINNING FLATGRILL JEEPS TILL
MB 131350 FAT David Aro :D
MB 130798 FAT
MB 130887 FAT F J Janssen
MB 130463 FAT
MB 132001 Lloyd FAT
MB 132051 Lloyd FAT
MB 140023 Ken Clay FAT
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Jon » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:29 pm

Ernie,
I take you you mean this one.

114795 Ernie Baals THIN

Both amended.

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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Chuck Lutz » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:08 pm

Due to the photos posted by "Ironage" (Graham in UK) I wonder if this is much simpler than it seems....I don't have an Internal Expanding Ebrake setup to measure, but I think they are SHORTER than the earlier one....and therefore a LONGER propshaft in the rear is needed. So here is a theory you guys can sort out since I don't have any Fat Tube propshafts or a late MB ebrake setup..

1) First came the FAT TUBE shaft for the EARLY MBs.
2) Next came the SOLID shaft.
3) With the intro of the late ebrake setup, a DIFFERENT LENGTH Fat Tube type was produced.

You would have to remove the Yoke from the Shaft and measure from u-joint end to spline end and then compare against the standard rear shaft dimensions....and if you had BOTH ebrake setups you could measure those....and measure the Yoke that mounts on that ebrake!

Anyone want to see if this is why there are FAT tubes early and FAT tubes late and why SOME fat tubes stick too far into the yoke when mounted behind an EARLY ebrake setup?
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Charlie S. » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:13 am

Hi,
did you see this fphoto from Life Magazine ?
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I guess the Jeep must be around July 1942. For sure is after last Slat Grill 125809.-
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Tom Wolboldt » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:31 am

Also after Serial number 146774 which was the start of the torque reaction spring.
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Charlie S. » Tue Feb 16, 2010 8:57 am

Yeo !!!!!! :D
Here is another great photo of the same Jeep from the other side !!!!!!
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Did you noted the oval muffler and the small skid plate's shape ?
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by DavidA » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:43 am

MB131350 = fat

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Post by Jon » Sun Aug 01, 2010 2:50 pm

Added DA. hehehehe

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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by FJ.Janssen » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:28 am

MB 130887 - fat type
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Post by Jon » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:33 pm

Added .....130887 :D
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Christophe Chevalet » Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:42 pm

Hello John
My Slat 105879 is a Thin shaft...
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Macario » Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:25 am

Hi John, my name is Macario, I bought the Jeep Slat Grill Hector Cicerchia sn # 115466, please correct the name of the owner. Thanks, a hug from Buenos Aires, Agentina.
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Re: Rear Prop Shaft - Fat or Skinny - Please check your Number

Post by Sean » Sat Mar 05, 2011 10:03 am

Holy crap is this debate still going on?????

Ford made their own driveshafts and used the same skinny ones throughout production. Fat rear ones are Willys only.

I'm pretty sure all slat grill MB's used the skiny rear shaft and have factory photo's showing this, the change to the fat one occured around may/june 42. I have a factory photo of Mb 147??? DOD 6-7-42 showing a fat shaft.
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Post by Fabian » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:49 pm

Thanks guys. This is a great post.
Although I am usually skeptical on surveys made today to determine the changes in production between 1941 and 1945, there does seem to be a pattern emerging. :shock:

Does anyone out there know which one of these 2 fat props is the correct one for the jeep ?

By the way my MB130607 has a thin prop, but this jeep came back from Greece in the 1980's, so I really would not like to say that it's original to the jeep.
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