Early body number

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Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:59 am

Hello everyone. My Willys is a Slat Grill but it has been modified over the years. The body is slat, the frame and engine are not. I don't have the original data plates but I do have the body number. 2048! Built on day one I think. What serial number could it correspond to? Thank you


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Re: Early body number

Post by Adam » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:25 am

Well, if body numbers started at 2000, then this is body 48 , lots of shipping and moving around of bodies so if FIFO was not followed, who knows what number it could of been.


Maybe somebody has some hidden information.

Have you done any searching on the serial number list?

With only the body being a slat, what is accepted for vehicle titling? the frame number?

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Re: Early body number

Post by Adam » Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:29 am

Well, if body numbers started at 2000, then this is body 48 , lots of shipping and moving around of bodies so if FIFO was not followed, who knows what number it could of been.


Maybe somebody has some hidden information.

Have you done any searching on the serial number list?

With only the body being a slat, what is accepted for vehicle titling? the frame number?

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Re: Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:38 pm

Thanks, i want to put data plates, not original, but with almost correct DOD....

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Post by brucemb » Sat Dec 24, 2022 7:35 pm

Well if it helps, I have mb 100018 (number 18) with body number 2025 (they didn’t match the body and frame numbers). This was built on first day production and has a DOD of 11/17/41. If your body was used for a first day production mb, it would likely have the same DOD.
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Re: Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:18 am

Thank you Bruce! Now i can make a new data plates, not original, but thats is what i can make!!! Grazie

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Re: Early body number

Post by cbennett » Tue Dec 27, 2022 10:51 am

Tonzi63,

Wow! Such and early tub is a truly amazing find.

Here are the early chassis and tubs that I am aware of:

Chassis Tub DoD (if known to me)
MB-100001 UNK UNK
MB-100005 2045 UNK
MB-100018 2025 17 Nov 1941 (brucemb's)
MB-100022 UNK UNK
MB-100046 2038 UNK
MB-100063 2045 UNK
MB-100064 2028 UNK
MB-100066 2030 UNK
MB-100090 UNK UNK
MB-100118* 2571 26 Nov 1941 (this may be MB-100718, not sure)
MB-100122 2257 24 Nov 1941

Hope this helps.

Can you post a picture of this tub and gusset number?

Thanks,

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Re: Early body number

Post by sjalbert » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:44 am

Have a look at this link http://web.archive.org/web/200305172131 ... ourn-a.htm

It's body number data compiled by Jim Kilbourn
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Re: Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 am

numero.jpg
Poor photo, i try to clean better!

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Re: Early body number

Post by Mark Tombleson » Wed Jan 04, 2023 12:23 pm

Tonzi63 wrote:
Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 am
numero.jpg
This photo bothers me a bit because it looks forest green!

The MB-Marine was a slat and had slate features with a few additions but I’m more concerned with a MB-NOM-12 or MB-MZ-1 with body numbers from 2000 to 4000+ being mistaken as slat bodies.

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Re: Early body number

Post by Adam » Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:21 pm

Whats with the weld mark on it, any more on that gussett?

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Re: Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:22 am

The color is from an old restauration...and the weld too... :oops:

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Re: Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:34 am

Hi Mark, I didn't know about the existence of this type of Jeep... I don't have the chassis number and the Jeep was reconditioned by the Italian army and then had 12 owners before me. Are there any other details to understand if the body is from a slat? Thank you

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Re: Early body number

Post by Klaas » Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:49 am

Tonzi63 wrote:
Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:34 am
Hi Mark, I didn't know about the existence of this type of Jeep... I don't have the chassis number and the Jeep was reconditioned by the Italian army and then had 12 owners before me. Are there any other details to understand if the body is from a slat? Thank you
I am not a Willys or slat expert, but the features of an early slat grille MB are the absence of a glove box and therefore the mounting of the fire extinguisher on the passenger side. When Willys introduced the glove box in the later slats, the FE moved to the drivers side, so look for the 6 holes in the right hand side footwell body panel. Also on early slat MB's the fuel tank well had square corners. There are more features but I will leave that to those in the know.
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Re: Early body number

Post by Tonzi63 » Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:29 am

Yes, my body is ok, no glove box, FE on the right side ans square tank protector...


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