Riveted Grill mounts

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Riveted Grill mounts

Post by steven ellis » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:16 am

The question is are the 2 mounts riveted to the frame for the grill to attach also welded? My early frame is and I saw another 2 piece tray frame welded the same way
A bubba thing, or field mod?
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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by Viking27 » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:25 am

Steven,

Interesting question. I just checked 3 MB 1941 frames,
all 3 have weld spots to the grill brakcet.


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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by steven ellis » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:21 pm

That's what I'm finding too. Hoping more with 2 piece trays will chim in
GPW 314 DOD 3-14-42
GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by 70th Division » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:40 pm

Hello Steven and Hinrik,

Interesting post !

I just checked my Willys slat grill frame, with a 2 piece battery tray, and yes both the riveted grill mounts have clean beads of weld on them, on each end.

It looks like a nice factory weld to me .


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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by steven ellis » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:37 am

Checked with a couple more friends and theirs also are welded, so I'm not going to mess with them
GPW 314 DOD 3-14-42
GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
MB124997 DOD 3/4/42 2079954 (actual) Slat grill
GPW48979 mtr for trade
M38 DOD 3/52 Hood# 20908270 actual


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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by GSS » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:15 am

Mine are nicely welded as well.
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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by 70th Division » Sun Aug 04, 2019 6:55 am

Hello,

Well I think we can say that this confirms that these welds were a factory weld !!
I hope others who didn't ask the question......didn't "repair" their brackets and get rid of this
clear factory weld :D
It does happen, but this is actually a great post for further education and technical information points on the slat grill jeeps, at least the 2 piece battery tray slat grill jeeps.

I remember seeing a nice restoration here on the G, of a GPW, that someone cut their original
" third type " GPW frame, that had straight frame rails right out to the bumper.
They made an angle cut to make it look like the more standard GPW frame.
( Likely they and many had not seen that frame before, and assumed it was wrong.)
I have that straight frame rail GPW , on a May 1943 GPW jeep.
I also have a "rescued" GPW frame that also has the straight frame rails.

This important post Steven has made is so important to our knowledge base.


Please keep adding your info if you also have a slat grill frame, the more the better !!


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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by steven ellis » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:35 pm

Well if its truly noteworthy, and I think it is, then maybe a note should be added to the slat grill serial number/evolution post. My one piece slat with the glove box is not welded and neither is vep 227 with midland one piece tray
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GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
MB124997 DOD 3/4/42 2079954 (actual) Slat grill
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M38 DOD 3/52 Hood# 20908270 actual

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Post by Ben Dover » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:50 pm

My 1944 Willys is rivited, no welds.
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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by David » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:00 am

Can anyone post some pics of the welds?

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Post by Ben Dover » Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:28 am

Was there a bulletin to aply a tack weld?
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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by Adam » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:13 am

Just looked, VEP 260 is not welded either.

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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by steven ellis » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:24 pm

Stay focused, this discussion is only for a 2 piece slat grill battery frame.
GPW 314 DOD 3-14-42
GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
MB124997 DOD 3/4/42 2079954 (actual) Slat grill
GPW48979 mtr for trade
M38 DOD 3/52 Hood# 20908270 actual

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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by steven ellis » Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:25 pm

Adam is 260 a one piece tray?, bet it is
GPW 314 DOD 3-14-42
GPW 227 DOD 2/42 2062315 (actual) & US NAVY 195086 hood numbers
MB124997 DOD 3/4/42 2079954 (actual) Slat grill
GPW48979 mtr for trade
M38 DOD 3/52 Hood# 20908270 actual

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Re: Riveted Grill mounts

Post by Diesel Dave » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:55 pm

My January 42 slat with 2 piece tray is welded also.was wondering what to do with it. Now I know!

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