24-bolt wheel flat seals?

[steelsoldiers]

Hi Guys,

I am working on mounting my Baja TA's on my staggered 24-bolt wheels and have a question about the wheel seals. My wheels have the "improved" flat, orange seal instead of o-rings. I know you aren't supposed to reuse the o-rings, but what about the flat seals? Remove and replace? If so, does anyone have a PN for them? I checked the latest 24P and they aren't listed. They aren't shown in the depot manual and my "googling" thus far has been ineffective. Any help will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris

[Action]

If you plan on reusing it, don't remove it. I took one out, and it was stretched just like the o-rings do. I could not put it back in. I just used the red o-ring.

Jason

[actionpaintball]

I have never tried re-using them....but X2 on using the red orings...

http://www.hummerpartsguy.com/O-RING-WH ... p_639.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[steelsoldiers]

Thanks fellas. The seals look like they are in good condition, but I would hate to tighten all 24 bolts just to find out that that one won't hold air If I can't find the seals, then I will use new o-rings to be on the safe side.

[dilvoy]

The "Flat Seal" may have started lift as a round cross section O ring. If you have a 24 bolt "tandem" wheel it should be "E" rated and use a different valve stem adaptor. This wheel should have a round hole for the valve stem to fit through instead of a rectangular hole like the 12 bolt and evenly spaced 24 bolt wheels. This wheel does not use the adaptor then a shrader valve that screws into that. Basically the schrader valve is bolted directly to the outer wheel half with a nut on the inside. It should be made by Hayes. As far as I have been able to figure out all of the wheel half nuts are the same for the 12 bolt, 20 bolt Accuride E rated wheels and both D and E rated 24 bolt wheels. I have not been able to find out what seal works on the E rated wheels though.

[dilvoy]

Thanks fellas. The seals look like they are in good condition, but I would hate to tighten all 24 bolts just to find out that that one won't hold air If I can't find the seals, then I will use new o-rings to be on the safe side.

If the seals are not cut and are bulged up higher than the surface of the inner wheel half you should be OK. Now how much higher to be OK, I don't know.

[steelsoldiers]

Great info, George. Looks like I do have the E rated Hayes wheels because my valve stems look exactly like what you described. As for the seals vs o-rings, I wonder if my seals started out as these fat looking orange o-rings? http://www.hummerpartsguy.com/O-RING-WH ... _6096.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I'll post a pic of mine when I get home.

On a related note, I read in the manual that E rated rims shouldn't be used with D rated tires. Is that only because it would affect the weight capacity? My Baja TA's are only rated D, but my 998 shouldn't weigh more that 7500 lbs when I am finished with it.

[dilvoy]

Yes, I think that don't mix D rated tires with E rated rims is for the Mil so they can keep things as simple as possible and since we aren't running Humvees at 14,000 GVW we don't have to worry about this. I have a 13 page writeup about how do identify the wheels and load ratings on the tires and what not to mix. Basically you can only mix the 20 and 24 bolt E Rated tire and wheel combos. This writup was for the M1151 REV vehicle. They went to the effort not only to say not to mix the different wheels and tires, and did so upwards, downwards and sideways. They don't even want you mixing Baja's and MTR's of the same rating on the same vehicle. I can't find my camera right now otherwise I'd post some fotos. Now what jacket pocket have I left that camera in?

[dilvoy]

It's been a while now, but I think I got the wheel info from this website.
http://peocscss.tacom.army.mil/PdMLTV.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
If anyone has time to find the info that's ok with me as I'm pretty busy here at work.

[steelsoldiers]

Thanks for the info and link. I will navigate over there and learn some stuff. I don't think I have seen any of the 20-bolt rims for sale anywhere. Anybody here on the G use them?

Here are some pics of one of my rims. You can see the flat orange seal and the valve stem mounted to the outer rim half.

[Action]

the orange o-ring, 6012731, is listed as "seal o-ring 17.0 2pc Hu"

17" 2-piece hutchinson maybe

Jason

[dilvoy]

I found my camera and here are some fotos showing the wheel info that I had mentioned.

[dilvoy]

[dilvoy]

[dilvoy]