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FOR SALE WC12 W-231808

Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:43 am

UPDATE: Reluctantly I am putting my nearly finished WC12 up for sale. There are too many things going on in my life right now, too little space for storage and too many projects competing for attention. I have another 14 months to complete residential construction, put two through college and start a normal life again. then I can start restoring again. Long story I know, but life is still a blessing. Located in TN, $15500 pm me and I'll provide a phone number for questions. Read this thread and you will know everything about the vehicle and the detailed work I've done. All wc parts shown on the pages and listed below that are on hand go with it.

I brought this WC12 home yesterday. It will stay on the trailer until I can take it to DMV for the SN/VIN verification and title work. Thereafter, I will begin a slow and detailed process of my first real restoration. My progress will not be quick, but I hope to post a detailed discussion of the work along the way and of course solicit recommendations.

I used 320 grit sand paper and lightly sanded the hood to reveal the USA number. It looks like the vehicle was originally painted, then the blue drab US number added, followed by another light coat of OD at some time and smaller USA numbers. I make out

. U.S.A
W-231808


which is close to what I calculated off of the Serial number stamped on the frame 86823XX. Here are some images, and also you will notice a blue drab stencil on the left and right forward frame under the wheel well. I cannot tell what it is, perhaps Tire Pressure (TP). The NM desert sun has faded things so much that the lightest of friction removes most of the pigment. To reveal what's seen in the images, I used 320grit, with extremely light pressure and perhaps 3 circles to get to where you see in the images. For now I will go no further.

Dated 15 Oct 16, Updated 13 Jul 18

I decided to follow wc56daveyboy lead and post my costs for this project. I will add everything except tools used to work on the WC12 and shipping costs.

$1800 WC12 purchase
$1000 Frame and complete box
$49 Speedometer and 2 gauges (speedo was nogo and the gauges will be repaired and sold later)
$42 Red Oxide Primer
$42 700# 3/4 blasting sand
$29 2 interior door handles
$52 gasket sets for gauges
$27 parts for speedometer
$49 Carb parts
$225 fuel tank and straps
$35 Air Cleaner
$25 Panel Light Switch
$25 Voltage Regulator
$49 Speedometer #3
$450 Spring bushings and pin set
$92 Rubber motor mounts (front and rear)
$44 Transfer case and transmission gasket set
$52 Two Marble Reflectors
$75 NOS Fuel Filter
$18 A few DPCD marked bolts for those visible locations
$69 NOS window handles x 2
$761 4 Coker NDT 7.50 x 16 tires, tubes and flaps
$30 flywheel ring gear
$45 radiator hoses and clamps
$40 rear snubbers
$30 throttle and choke cables
$105 NOS starter switch, starter pinion gear assy, brushes for Gen and Gen end cover
$18 Oil and air filter decals
$82 Differential/axle seal kit
$90 Brake cylinders and misc parts
$75 Cab mounting bolts
$80 Bumperettes
$30 Front Tow Hooks
$102 Shock absorber repair kits x 2 misc hardware
$99 Front axle rebuild parts
$142 Front brake parts
$187 Remaining front axle parts (knuckle etc)
$205 Front differential bearings and races
$40 Flange caps
$62 Transfer case seals, gaskets small parts
$25 Misc hardware
$69 Paint and primer
$64 Speedi-sleeves x 2
$1507 remaining fuel, transmission, brake, steering, prop shaft parts
$1050 Sheet metal work on cab and doors
$305 running board tail light brackets, shift linkage, pintle
$265 complete widow glass set
$361 front bumper, bumper horns, weatherstripping, 4" yoke
$806 entire engine rebuild parts, gaskets, seals, pistons, valve guides, oil pump, etc etc
$278 wiring materials
$320 Refurbished Radiator
$1163 Bed frame, parking brake band, manifold studs, clutch parts, water pump, rubber floor mat, exhaust system parts and hangars, misc parts
$920 engine machine shop costs
$105 misc parts and hardware
$35 NOS Speedo Cable
$16 Oil fittings
$15 Chain eye bolts
$75 NOS Governor
$245 Misc parts, fuel nozzles, governor, hardware
$90 Battery cables VMV
$90 manifold work and parts
$68 Fuel Tank Liner Kit KBS GOld
$350 Wiper Motors
$12 Fan Belt
$25 Hitch Bracket
$284 firewall kit, cab mounting kit, hood welting, misc
$22 wood for cab floor
$102 master light switch and misc
$475 sand blasting and priming bed and fenders
$63 multiple hardware receipts
$150 Brown Vinyl Seat Covers
$15,863 TOTAL so far


If I stay focused on replacing or refurbishing existing parts and sticking to NOS or OEM, this should be a very true restoration. The area of greatest concern right now is the inability to find all NOS/OEM hardware to bolt everything back together. Not doing so will drop the quality down a notch, but the time and cost to get that aspect 100% correct for me is unrealistic. If the donor truck had not had so many replacement pieces (hardware) I would have been more diligent about reclaiming it all, but the total mix of stuff was amazing. I will acquire a small stash of DPCD hardware to place in the most visible locations, and call it good. If over time I run across more stuff, I can change a few things out.

Here is the partial list for now (Red is on hand)

If anyone has any of these items to sell or trade, please let me know. Thanks :)

engine gaskets
hood hinge and end caps
seat bottom and back vinyl upholstery
exterior door handles (only need one more)
bumperettes
headliner
fire wall pad
radiator hoses and clamps
water pump
brake pads, lines, springs, piston rebuild etc
front bumper and mounting plates
fender welting
window seals
decals and Auto Lite data plates
wood bed (self help)
wood support beams
bed hardware
lower clutch cover
hand brake liner
rubber spring snubbers
exhaust system and hanger kit
front tow hooks
Dodge hood emblems
floor board (self help)
floor mat
fuel tank filler tube and cap
fuel lines and clips
wiring harness
black out lights
rear reflector brackets
two more marble reflectors
window glass
mirror
spark plug wires
fuel lines
vacuum lines
fittings for fuel and vacuum lines
shock absorber rebuild kits
steering wheel
choke cable, , throttle cable assembly
passenger running board
driver running board
flywheel ring gear
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Re: Restoring WC12 W-231808

Post by tractor12 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:49 am

According to David Doyles book it is in the last batch of 1000 trucks about 400 from the end. Its date should be September or October of 41
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:04 am

You are most correct. The data plate lists delivery of 30 Sep 41.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:06 am

Here are the wheel well images I mentioned earlier.
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Post by twinflyer17 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:11 am

Wow, awesome looking WC-12! I'd love my next project to be one of these. Unfortunately, though, it's hard to find one in this good condition in the Mid-Atlantic thanks to snow and salt :cry:

Good luck on your resto! Looking forward to following your progress.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:20 am

twinflyer17 wrote:Wow, awesome looking WC-12! I'd love my next project to be one of these. Unfortunately, though, it's hard to find one in this good condition in the Mid-Atlantic thanks to snow and salt :cry:

Good luck on your resto! Looking forward to following your progress.

Thank you very much!
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:06 pm

NM DMV is changing their computer program for Assurety Bonds for the title. so I will have to leave it on the trailer for a few weeks. In the mean while, here is the "W" number
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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:41 pm

Here is a period vehicle image showing the size and location of the "W" number and its size. I see the type of stencil used are all of the closed type letters. It seems to match location, type and size of the stencil I uncovered above. I am thinking this is the original registration number from 1941.

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Post by 17thAirborne » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:41 pm

I figured out what is stenciled on the left and right front frame member behind the tire"

INF TO
. 40



It means inflate to 40 psi as per the TM. It is done in what looks like the standard Army 1" stencil and it is clearly Blue Drab. This will be a nice detail to add back on later.

Does anyone know if this is Dodge factory marked or US Army at the motor pool.
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Post by TopKick » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:07 am

Disregarding the minor mods that's a nice looking WC. Best of luck on your restoration. 8)
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Post by wc56daveyboy » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:28 am

hey OZ... are you the same "OZ" that had a Clark airborne dozer?

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Post by 17thAirborne » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:29 am

Carburetor. Trying to ID the exact model, (Carter BB1 D6A2) then find replacement parts due to the massive glob of JB weld

What carb should be on this engine which is a T214 230cid engine.
It should be the T215 engine.
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Post by 17thAirborne » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:30 am

TopKick wrote:Disregarding the minor mods that's a nice looking WC. Best of luck on your restoration. 8)
I appreciate your support!
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Post by 17thAirborne » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:35 am

wc56daveyboy wrote:hey OZ... are you the same "OZ" that had a Clark airborne dozer?
T'is I. Good to hear from you again. Its been many evolutions since the CA-1. Have had too many things in my life to focus on MVs until just lately. Both of my young men are now in college, and my time portal has opened up a bit.

Both CA-1s found new homes, one to NZ and the other to SD. Both in good hands with restorers. Lately I have been having the urge to go OD again, so I found this in the New Mexico weeds for a fair price. I recall you had redone a nice CA-1 and are now working on a WC-12, a thread I have been following.
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Post by wc56daveyboy » Thu Sep 08, 2016 8:42 am

u r correct! I am nearly done with my Wc12... Its stil in Texas at my buddies garage. I moved to OK a few months ago, and still settling in,, soon I hope to have the WC with me here. weather about to cool down where the closed cab would feel fun to drive in.

still, I have a bit of a ways to go on it before a 2000 mile trip! its never been on the road, so I am needing to 'Debug" the old gal a little at a time once here. I sorta got it running decent and then the move came, so little time spent with her. good luck with you new project. Keep in touch OZ... !

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