The 32nds of May
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The 32nds of May
Made a small haul of goodies this morning. Picked up a Barcalo 10" adjustable, a Walden-Worcester 1152 41-H-1500 breaker bar, and an assortment of sockets. Weirdly, 6 of the 15 were 32nds.
Owatonna No. 125 25/32
2- D-I 1219 19/32
D-I 1225 25/32
Plomb 5421 21/32
Plomb 5425 25/32 dated 9B
The rest are:
D-I 1228 7/8"
Blackhawk 30016 1/2" 3/8" drive (not WWII)
Snap-on F-160 1/2" 3/8" drive 1941 date code
Blackhawk 15585 3/8" drive 6 point 3/8"
D-I 12 pt 3/8" drive 3/8"
New Britain 1/4" drive 6 pt 5/16" NM610
S-K 3/8" drive 45122 12 pt 11/16"
Husky 1/4" drive 7/32" 6 pt H6783
Blackhawk 1943 dated 3/8" drive 30016 1/2"
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Owatonna No. 125 25/32
2- D-I 1219 19/32
D-I 1225 25/32
Plomb 5421 21/32
Plomb 5425 25/32 dated 9B
The rest are:
D-I 1228 7/8"
Blackhawk 30016 1/2" 3/8" drive (not WWII)
Snap-on F-160 1/2" 3/8" drive 1941 date code
Blackhawk 15585 3/8" drive 6 point 3/8"
D-I 12 pt 3/8" drive 3/8"
New Britain 1/4" drive 6 pt 5/16" NM610
S-K 3/8" drive 45122 12 pt 11/16"
Husky 1/4" drive 7/32" 6 pt H6783
Blackhawk 1943 dated 3/8" drive 30016 1/2"
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Re: The 32nds of May
I like that adjustable!! I technically have the ones I need for my tool kits but com'on gotta admit that's a sexy one there. As for the sockets, finding a gaggle of 32nds is good. Most you find aren't, so when trying to put that kit together a good stock of the missing ones will be nice.
Matt
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Re: The 32nds of May
Nice breaker bar! I have the same model in my GMTK with the inverted "V" 1940's date mark. The hole takes the 1/2" diameter 41-B-155 bar which is unusual but correct for the GMTK.
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Re: The 32nds of May
The 5021 would be the find there. 5019 and 5025 you can find, presumably due to military procurement, but 5021 and 5023 just don't turn up.
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Re: The 32nds of May
Gordon,
Do you mean the 54** series Plomb 1/2” drive sockets?
-Don
Do you mean the 54** series Plomb 1/2” drive sockets?
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Re: The 32nds of May
Aha, I see the 5023 isn't listed - my fault.
The point I was making is that the odd numbered 1/32" sizes were / are very rare in Plomb, with the 19/32" and 25/32" presumably only more common because of Uncle Sam's liking for those sizes. I'm sticking to my point that the 5021 will be really rare, though.
Have you got a 5021 Don? How common are they round your way as I've never seen one here, and can't recall ever seeing one for sale on that auction site?
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The point I was making is that the odd numbered 1/32" sizes were / are very rare in Plomb, with the 19/32" and 25/32" presumably only more common because of Uncle Sam's liking for those sizes. I'm sticking to my point that the 5021 will be really rare, though.
Have you got a 5021 Don? How common are they round your way as I've never seen one here, and can't recall ever seeing one for sale on that auction site?
G
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Re: The 32nds of May
Gordon,
The 50** series are 3/8” drive deep sockets. The only ones I see in Catalog 19A are 5014 through 5020. I only have 5018, 5022 and 5024 sockets in 3/8” deep which are 9/16”, 11/16” and 3/4”. Are you sure that they made 3/8” deep sockets in 32nd” sizes? I realize that they made a lot of tools that don’t appear in any catalogs. Tin Medic’s GMTK correct ell handle is a good example. I think that I have all of the 32nd” short sockets in 1/2” drive.
-Don
The 50** series are 3/8” drive deep sockets. The only ones I see in Catalog 19A are 5014 through 5020. I only have 5018, 5022 and 5024 sockets in 3/8” deep which are 9/16”, 11/16” and 3/4”. Are you sure that they made 3/8” deep sockets in 32nd” sizes? I realize that they made a lot of tools that don’t appear in any catalogs. Tin Medic’s GMTK correct ell handle is a good example. I think that I have all of the 32nd” short sockets in 1/2” drive.
-Don
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Re: The 32nds of May
Just blame it on old age Don, I meant the 5421 1/2" drive. of course. I'll go back to sleep now.
So, seen many 5421 then?
g
So, seen many 5421 then?
g
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Re: The 32nds of May
It doesn't have anything to do with the federal government. The 19/ and 25/32nds were common in DOE, DBE, and socket wrenches because you couldn't turn U.S. Standard (U.S.S.) 5/16" and 7/16" nuts and bolts without them. All U.S.S. bolts had heads that were wider in diameter Across-the-Flats than the same bolt in S.A.E. standard. The 5/16" and 7/16" S.A.E. bolts would take a 1/2" and 5/8" opening respectively. If you look at a Machinery's Handbook or any vintage catalog with wrench to bolt tables, it pops right out at you right down the line.
As for the 21/32" opening, it was used on Ford Connecting Rod Bearing Cap Nuts and Ford V8-60 Main Bearing Screws.
The 23/32" was for Chevy Main Bearing Screws.
I identified the U.S.S./S.A.E. difference as the reason for the 19/ and 25/32nds in wrenches and sockets sets a long time ago, but without a rationale for the others, I did a deep dive on catalogs last year, and found those annotations footnoted in the 1941 Herbrand.
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Re: The 32nds of May
Gordon,
I found this on on eBay for $7.00 last month.
-Don
I found this on on eBay for $7.00 last month.
-Don
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Re: The 32nds of May
THANK YOU WINGNUTT. That has been puzzling me for some time, I don't remember you mentioning that before on here.Wingnutt wrote: ↑Sat Jun 02, 2018 6:02 amIt doesn't have anything to do with the federal government. The 19/ and 25/32nds were common in DOE, DBE, and socket wrenches because you couldn't turn U.S. Standard (U.S.S.) 5/16" and 7/16" nuts and bolts without them. All U.S.S. bolts had heads that were wider in diameter Across-the-Flats than the same bolt in S.A.E. standard. The 5/16" and 7/16" S.A.E. bolts would take a 1/2" and 5/8" opening respectively. If you look at a Machinery's Handbook or any vintage catalog with wrench to bolt tables, it pops right out at you right down the line.
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Re: The 32nds of May
I'll just have to watch for one then. I know I have 19/32" and 25/32" in my Plomb box, and since the 23/32" doesn't exist, a 21/32" will keep me happy.
I should probably double-check I don't already have one first.
Gordon
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Re: The 32nds of May
Gordon,
I’ve been working on this 1/2” drive set which came with all of the Plomb 32nd sockets except the 29/32” which I’ve recently added. I’ve been picking up deep and 8 point sockets to add to it as extras. I’m still looking for the Pin Handle (Crossbar) which seems to be extremely rare.
-Don
I’ve been working on this 1/2” drive set which came with all of the Plomb 32nd sockets except the 29/32” which I’ve recently added. I’ve been picking up deep and 8 point sockets to add to it as extras. I’m still looking for the Pin Handle (Crossbar) which seems to be extremely rare.
-Don
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