Second Echelon Set 2 Layout, 1942 Original Photo

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Re: Second Echelon Set 2 Layout, 1942 Original Photo

Post by Len Jones » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:31 pm

Cliff a very nice grouping - Snap because I have the same Wilde 675 and KD No 605 pieces.

However I resisted removing my Wilde 675 from it's original paper wrapper :lol: But I did notice a different type of valve keeper inserter illustrated on the enclosed Wilde leaflet.

I believe it might be this type which is illustrated in TM9-1803A dated 24th February 1944 :?: The brass screw & steel nut looks like a repair to me, as I suspect it should actually be a rivet :?:
That Patent was filed on November 30th 1936, and then granted on August 31st 1937.

I know those 41-W-3575 tappet wrenches have been discussed before :shock:

Another type of valve lifter is this Blue Point CF-12.

BTW are you going to W&P :?:
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Re: Second Echelon Set 2 Layout, 1942 Original Photo

Post by d42jeep » Thu Jul 18, 2019 12:24 am

Cliff and Len,
Thanks for posting your ingenious vintage valve keeper tools. I have a couple of early valve spring compressors but I’ll be on the lookout for an early keeper tool.
-Don
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Re: Second Echelon Set 2 Layout, 1942 Original Photo

Post by Hartofoak » Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:38 am

Thanks Len & Don for your interesting posts. It was also the first time I'd unwrapped my Wilde 41-L-1410, but I've kept the wrappings!
Here are similar US Patent drawings for the K-D No:605 inserter and K-D No 600 Valve Lifter. It appears that the Willys technical manual recommended the devises invented by I J Clark (as in your nice inserter tool and the Wilde No:675 ) and the Second Echelon documents went for the Kulp & Dellinger inventions. There's a complex patent story between 1914 and 1945. Some of this story has been retold here on the Gee:
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Len: I may be going to the 2019 War & Peace Show on Friday 26th July to meet up with my brother who remembers your well engineered replacement panels. Send me a "pm" if you are thinking of going and perhaps we could meet up at Beltring.
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Re: Second Echelon Set 2 Layout, 1942 Original Photo

Post by Wingnutt » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:44 am

Hartofoak wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:38 am
It appears that the Willys technical manual recommended the devises invented by I J Clark (as in your nice inserter tool and the Wilde No:675 ) and the Second Echelon documents went for the Kulp & Dellinger inventions.
Those Willys engineers didn't know their arses from a hole in the ground! The K-D models are far superior! :mrgreen:

But what I really want to know is how Cliff blew my cover! :o
Hartofoak wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:43 pm
"Private Lugnutz" alias Greg Hyduke, has also described his nice boxed example in the Garage Journal:
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Re: Second Echelon Set 2 Layout, 1942 Original Photo

Post by d42jeep » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:41 am

Wingnutt wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:44 am
Hartofoak wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 9:38 am
It appears that the Willys technical manual recommended the devises invented by I J Clark (as in your nice inserter tool and the Wilde No:675 ) and the Second Echelon documents went for the Kulp & Dellinger inventions.
Those Willys engineers didn't know their arses from a hole in the ground! The K-D models are far superior! :mrgreen:

But what I really want to know is how Cliff blew my cover! :o
Hartofoak wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:43 pm
"Private Lugnutz" alias Greg Hyduke, has also described his nice boxed example in the Garage Journal:
That was a well kept secret. I’m ashamed to admit that I left a chrome plated Wilde spring compressor behind at the flea on Saturday but I did find a much larger item to bring home.
-Don
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