Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
No prob. I've always found it strange they did that. Most of the other mfgrs transitioned DOE and DBE lines at the same time.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Bonney wrenches were not even on my radar until tonight. I know that I have a few in a box so I just went out to check to see what I have. Naturally, I only have one in the 585 series. Date code K T. Now the search begins for the rest.
41 M3 37mm A/T gun
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44 K38 trailer
43 K52 trailer
43 M3A4 handcarts(8)
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42 M1A1 75mm pack how
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43 WC62
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44 MZ2 USMC radio Jeep
44 RL35 reel cart
44 K38 trailer
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Re: Bonney Zenel wrenches
Greg, I have all six sizes for a GMTK, and maybe Phil Jones will have the time to snap a picture. I have not yet decided whether Zenels or Duro Chrome will be my keeper.Wingnutt wrote:. Someone would have to really like the idea of being different. If I'm not mistaken, Luca was working on a set at one time. I don't know if he ever had all five (5).
Possibly one of the Zenels has a post war code. Will let you know.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Now we have 2 examples !
In my experience any of the 585 series are rare over here, as are any correct Bonney's.
In my experience any of the 585 series are rare over here, as are any correct Bonney's.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Roger,Silly's MB wrote:Now we have 2 examples !
In my experience any of the 585 series are rare over here, as are any correct Bonney's.
FWIW in my experience with the repacks these were present but only herbrand had less numbers. Of note the Wynmkr kit included this style. No doubt a desirable set to put together.
Phil
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
That's amazing, Robin! Good luck in your hunt.Robin wrote:Bonney wrenches were not even on my radar until tonight. I know that I have a few in a box so I just went out to check to see what I have. Naturally, I only have one in the 585 series. Date code K T.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Nice wrench, Robin! I feel terrible for you though, only having that one tiny wrench from the set. You should send it to me for proper disposal!Robin wrote:Bonney wrenches were not even on my radar until tonight. I know that I have a few in a box so I just went out to check to see what I have. Naturally, I only have one in the 585 series. Date code K T. Now the search begins for the rest.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Here is Luca's Zenel set for a GMTK. They should clean up nicley.Wingnutt wrote:If I'm not mistaken, Luca was working on a set at one time. I don't know if he ever had all five (5).
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Re: Bonney Zenel wrenches
lucakiki wrote:Greg, I have all six sizes for a GMTK, and maybe Phil Jones will have the time to snap a picture.
Very nice set! Now if Hugh would only stop leaving them behind maybe the rest of us would have a set or two also!pjones wrote:Here is Luca's Zenel set for a GMTK.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Once last photo from his set. I just noticed the 3033C still has its original sticker on the handle.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
I think they suffered from bad storage!pjones wrote:
Here is Luca's Zenel set for a GMTK. They should clean up nicley.
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42 Willys MB-T #13560 11-42
43 Willys MB-T # 25417 4-43
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Luca, I can't speak for their former curator but they are well stored now.lucakiki wrote:pjones wrote: I think they suffered from bad storage!
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Re: Bonney ZENEL
I know, Phil, I know! And I am sure they will look good again one day.pjones wrote:Luca, I can't speak for their former curator but they are well stored now.lucakiki wrote:pjones wrote: I think they suffered from bad storage!
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I like Greg's definition: a set for someone who really likes to be different! While I would not have ever thought to use the five size set as a motorpool jeep set, the set for a GMTK has exactly the appeal that Greg suggested. And a set of Herbrands would serve more or less the same purpose in my book.
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45 Bantam T-3 #57248 1-10-45
42 Willys MB-T #13560 11-42
43 Willys MB-T # 25417 4-43
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45 Bantam T-3 #57248 1-10-45
42 Willys MB-T #13560 11-42
43 Willys MB-T # 25417 4-43
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
As long as we're breaking out a Bonney -ZENEL- wrench party on a Bonney 585 and Bonney Z41-W- thread...
...I'll show off these five (5) near-mint condition Bonney -ZENEL- wrenches again...
...and some better, more recent photos...
They are the complete Bonney No. 20 Miniature Wrench Set as shown at the bottom of this page from the 1943 catalog.
They all have "ET" (edit May 1942) date codes, with these being the only wrenches (they are miniature!) it's legible to the naked eye on...
More importantly, although these are not GMTK electrical wrenches, they are cited in the March 1945 ORD 5 SNL J-4, along with their mfgr/model codes (BF-H-10 through BF-H-18), which match the model numbers stamped into their jaw faces, in the same section as other miniature electrical or ignition duty wrenches.
I suspect that they are in the same finish as your larger -ZENEL- wrenches, Luca. The shanks are cadmium plated (perhaps dully chromed) and the heads are buffed bright.
...I'll show off these five (5) near-mint condition Bonney -ZENEL- wrenches again...
...and some better, more recent photos...
They are the complete Bonney No. 20 Miniature Wrench Set as shown at the bottom of this page from the 1943 catalog.
They all have "ET" (edit May 1942) date codes, with these being the only wrenches (they are miniature!) it's legible to the naked eye on...
More importantly, although these are not GMTK electrical wrenches, they are cited in the March 1945 ORD 5 SNL J-4, along with their mfgr/model codes (BF-H-10 through BF-H-18), which match the model numbers stamped into their jaw faces, in the same section as other miniature electrical or ignition duty wrenches.
I suspect that they are in the same finish as your larger -ZENEL- wrenches, Luca. The shanks are cadmium plated (perhaps dully chromed) and the heads are buffed bright.
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Re: Bonney 585 "723" Mystery.... SOLVED!!!!!
Wouldn't a BONNEY date code of "ET" indicate that was E=May - T=1942?
May, 1942?
May, 1942?
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