USAAF tools wanted

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USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Sun Nov 01, 2015 12:49 pm

Hi all,

I'm looking for an A-5 flexible head inspection lamp as used by the USAAF groundcrew. Must be in good serviceable condition please
Also looking for some groundcrew tools, Plomb WF, Snap-on, PWA etc
What have you lot got for sale?
Please contact by PM.......

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:51 pm

No-one has any tools to get me on my way to putting together an Air corps tool set for a museum display?
There must be some out there?

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by mudbox » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:36 pm

Hey Tim.
I got some 'tool post' wrenches a while back as part of an auction. I don't know what they're used for, but a couple of them have USAAF in electric pencil.
Here's a few shots.
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Any interest?
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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by henry501 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:59 pm

Tim,

Speaking solely for myself I don't know specifically what tools comprise a USAAF ground crew tool set but presumably there is probably some crossover between those sets and the general motor vehicle GMTK sets. If you have lists and period illustrations of what you are looking for post them and guys will likely be better able to provide something for you or tell you where to look. I know I would but need to know specifics of what you are looking for.

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:26 pm

Thanks for the replies guys

Think I'll pass on the wrenches for the time being.

I too am not entirely sure as to what the list of items consisted of for a USAAF tool box.
But I guess it must have been aircraft specific, and also trade specific too, airframe, engines etc
I know the Bonney brand where stamped with PWA and of course the PLOMB WF range

I do have quite a lot of date correct 'spares' not necessarily gmtk correct. I guess most of these would do for a display

I am involved with a (new incarnation) museum in Cambridgeshire, England dedicated to the 361st FG during WW2. A lot has to be done, but one plan is to have a Nissen hut set out as a mechanic shop, with period equipment etc. But which can also be used as a tool shop to keep the museum in tip top condition.....

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:36 am

Saddle Tramp wrote:But I guess it must have been aircraft specific, and also trade specific too, airframe, engines etc
I know the Bonney brand where stamped with PWA and of course the PLOMB WF range
I agree with this, Tim. And I know a lucky and clever sumbuck who has an original March 1944 Naval Air Supply Officer Stock Catalog "Blue Book". I’ve asked for scans of the "Class 41" (Hand Tools) section for my own Army tools research (double-checking federal stock numbers, nomenclatures, specs, etc). In the absence of any USAAF data, the NAF data may be helpful, especially if it includes sets for common aircraft. I'll share what I can here.

You may also find helpful these previous threads from Roger...
viewtopic.php?p=1371228#p1371228

...and Tin Medic.
viewtopic.php?p=1437942#p1437942
Saddle Tramp wrote:...one plan is to have a Nissen hut set out as a mechanic shop, with period equipment etc. But which can also be used as a tool shop to keep the museum in tip top condition...
This is a great idea and a perfect semi-retirement job for the WWII hobbyist-mechanic. Where shall I send my application?!

I’ll only sign on with one condition. If you have one of these…

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...or one of these for me to run around the flightline on!

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:59 am

Saddle Tramp wrote:What have you lot got for sale?
How are you set for tool boxes, Tim?

Here are some period photos showing a box used for the ground crew chief's kit:

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And here are some photos of a 1943 Kit - Crew Chief box that I have available for sale:

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Note that the suffix of the "T.O." (Technical Order) on the front is the date (i.e., 1943). These boxes are also seen with a -42, -44, and -45 suffix. Similar to Signal Corps acquisition scheme.

Finally, if you'd like the box, and you want to fill it up with the correct tools, here is a nice list and figure for you showing what went into the crew chief's kit:

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Note that based on the T.O. (03-1-46), this is from 1946, but I'm betting it was very close if not the same as the wartime spec.
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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:26 pm

As always Greg, you are a font on knowledge!
And you are teasing me with that tool box and pictures...
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Post by Wingnutt » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:31 pm

And some photos (all from the US Militaria Forum website: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ ... he-ground/), of some USAAF tools, some of which can be found in the crew chief's kit...

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Mallet, pliers, cape chisel
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Blonde wood handle screwdriver, adjustable crescent type wrench with unreinforced hanging hole
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Speeder
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Heavy duty screwdriver
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Feeler gage, tachometer, valve adjuster, and spark plug tool
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And some Lufkin "Air Corps" marked tape measures and Dzus tools
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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:37 pm

Saddle Tramp wrote:And you are teasing me with that tool box and pictures...
Haha. I knew you'd like that! Happy to help the museum's cause...

But hey, who needs boxes? :D
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Nissen hut
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Shop and toolboard
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Some scaffolding and ladders would look good
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Or you could just pull your jeep under the plane...
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And when you're not using your jeep hood as a ladder, you could play a college-like prank and see how many ground crewmen you can fit on it. :lol:
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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:55 pm

Wingnutt wrote:
Saddle Tramp wrote:But I guess it must have been aircraft specific, and also trade specific too, airframe, engines etc
I know the Bonney brand where stamped with PWA and of course the PLOMB WF range
I agree with this, Tim. And I know a lucky and clever sumbuck who has an original March 1944 Naval Air Supply Officer Stock Catalog "Blue Book". I’ve asked for scans of the "Class 41" (Hand Tools) section for my own Army tools research (double-checking federal stock numbers, nomenclatures, specs, etc). In the absence of any USAAF data, the NAF data may be helpful, especially if it includes sets for common aircraft. I'll share what I can here.

You may also find helpful these previous threads from Roger...
viewtopic.php?p=1371228#p1371228

...and Tin Medic.
viewtopic.php?p=1437942#p1437942
Saddle Tramp wrote:...one plan is to have a Nissen hut set out as a mechanic shop, with period equipment etc. But which can also be used as a tool shop to keep the museum in tip top condition...
This is a great idea and a perfect semi-retirement job for the WWII hobbyist-mechanic. Where shall I send my application?!

I’ll only sign on with one condition. If you have one of these…

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...or one of these for me to run around the flightline on!

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That must be one of the first ever drop tank race cars!
And no, I can't help with the BSA M20 (I sold mine years ago) But you are welcome to mooch around on my WLA if that will suffice?

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:11 pm

Those period pictures are fantastic!

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Wingnutt » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:12 pm

Saddle Tramp wrote:But you are welcome to mooch around on my WLA if that will suffice?
No thanks! 200 pounds heavier, less nimble, no off-road capability, and despite 15 more cubic inches, same realistic cruising speed of 55 MPH! All hail Val Page! :P :D
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Post by Saddle Tramp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:16 pm

Wingnutt wrote:
Saddle Tramp wrote:But you are welcome to mooch around on my WLA if that will suffice?
No thanks! 200 pounds heavier, less nimble, no off-road capability, and despite 15 more cubic inches, same realistic cruising speed of 55 MPH! All hail Val Page! :P :D
And enough vibration and shaking to loosen your fillings!
That's why I kept the Harley and sold the BSA ;-)

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Re: USAAF tools wanted

Post by Saddle Tramp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:23 pm

If anyone would like to see what we are up against, and see the erection of a new Nissen hut
Check out Bottisham Airfield Museum on Facebook

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