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Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by Hartofoak » Tue Feb 12, 2013 8:15 am

I first aquired a Lincoln Suction Gun, Model 622(G), back in the 1970's and last month found another on a well known auction site (as part of a pile of rubbish). I also have a tatty parts list dated September 1942, entitled 'SUCTION GUN U. S. GOVERNMENT'. Over the years I have found the gun very useful for topping up the transmission and differentials. Both guns are engraved U.S. ORD and I wondered if anyone knew anymore about them. I have found little on the gee.

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by AZ Jeff » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:48 pm

The narrow flex neck model is the 41-G-1370 "Gun, Oil Lubricating, hand-operated suction type shock absorber".

It was a component of:

* Tool Set, Second Echelon, Set 2
* Tool Set Third Echelon, Set 1
* Tool Set Fourth Echelon, Set 2
* Special Armored Forces Tool Set

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by lt.luke » Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:29 am

boy i do like this tool! I think i want one. this looks like much greater quality than the POS I got at Walmart!

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by Hartofoak » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:20 pm

Many thanks 'AZ Jeff' for the comprehensive list. It would be good to see a photo of one of the kits you mention.
'Lt luke': My second Suction Gun could go to a good home but it only has the #620207 nozzle tube (minus the end piece) and does not have the flexible tube #62013. Send me a pm if you're interested.
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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by 43GPW98036 » Sat Mar 25, 2023 10:57 am

I just recently picked these LINCOLN suction guns, MODEL 621 & 622, no other markings. The absence of the U.S. ORD markings make these not correct for use in the higher echelon motor pool tool kits?
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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by Rustman » Sun Mar 26, 2023 2:55 am

To the best of my knowledge MOST tools were NOT marked with a government marking such as US ORD. So enjoy these as part of your set.

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by Warren Duchesne » Sun Mar 26, 2023 1:59 pm

I have a couple of these and love them. Very handy. Warren Duchesne

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by henry501 » Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:42 am

This suction gun as a set with the three different nozzles (41-G-1365) is also part of the Second Echelon set 1. It is listed as such as far back as the circular 4 OQMG from 1938.

I have a couple of these with US ORD stampings. For what it is worth, IMHO the hardest component to get is the “correct” (to Cliff’s manual images and listing up thread) graduated flex tube (62013). The 45 degree bent short tip (62027) tip and crook tip (62015) are the ones that have come with the guns I have. It took me a while to get the flex tube tip.

Also, not meant as exclusionary but, in the RAPD photos accompanying the SNL’s, the manufacture of the gun shown in those photos is Alemite while the ones I have (and have seen to date) are Lincoln.

Finally, 43GPW98036, It’s not the lack of US ORD or QMC stampings that make your guns post war but rather the screw on ends. Notice the ends on the ones in Cliff’s photo of actual ones and the schematics in the manual. Those ends are shaped like caps with gradually tapered “domed or even chamfered” end caps versus yours with “necked” down end caps. Also, it appears from your photos that the handles on your guns are “shiny” chrome or nickel plated (albeit slightly dulled from age). Handles from WWII era and early post war guns are a dull gray (again see Cliff’s photos up thread) These slight design changes are something to pay attention to as the overall design and function of most of these tools don’t change significantly from era to era. Thus the only way to more specifically date these is often based on these minor design changes. In the mean time enjoy them as the good functioning tools that they were meant to be.

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by 43chev » Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:23 pm

I’ve got one , here in Australia
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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by henry501 » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:48 am

43 Chevy,

Yes, that’s a grease gun not a suction gun. I’ll have to look through my records to see which one that is but it is military and likely WWII Era.

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by henry501 » Thu May 04, 2023 7:04 pm

43GPW98036,

I owe you and the others following this thread a profound apology. After looking through my several Lincoln “suction guns” I found that I have them with both styles of end caps and both have US military stampings on the barrels. Of note is the fact that the one that has the “domed” or chamfered end caps is stamped “US ORD” and the one with the “necked” end caps is stamped “US QMC”. If I recall correctly there was mentioned somewhere on this tool forum (possibly related to tire pumps) that the earlier tire pumps were marked “US ORD” and later in the war when things were standardized and the Quartermaster Corps took over the supply function the “US QMC” stamping was used. If I recall, interpret and apply this all correctly it may mean that both “styles” of gun are WWII era but they are just earlier war and later war styles

So… again, my apologies for creating confusion.

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Re: Lincoln Suction Gun

Post by pjones » Fri May 05, 2023 2:44 pm

Henry,
If I remember correctly the responsibilities of the QMC were transferred to ORD 8/1/42.

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