Large wood tool box ID please

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Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Robin » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:37 pm

Very large wooden box. No markings. Has the WW2 OD paint look to it. Angled front, drawer inside. What is it? I don't think Signal Corps as there are no data plates. Not Engineer as there are no packing list inside. Part of a truck tool set? Has wood runners on the bottom so it can be pulled out of a compartment?
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Steve Webb » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:46 pm

Boy that is a big one. I wonder what those phillip head screws are made of? Steel, brass or zinc plated.
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Wingnutt » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:35 pm

No idea, but I like it, Robin. Are there two handles in the back, too, for a 4-man carry? Or was it tipped up and moved with those two handles that are showing as a 2-man carry?
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Robin » Sat Jan 04, 2020 11:34 pm

There are 2 handles on the back.
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by GUNNUT in Iowa » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:06 pm

Is there anything other than ". . . WW2 OD paint look . . ." to indicate military?

If not, I am going with home made - very well done, but not an issue piece.

I could be wrong and would appreciate it if I was informed as such.
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Robin » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm

Way too over engineered to be home made.
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Wingnutt » Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:29 pm

Robin wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm
Way too over engineered to be home made.
Not only that, but the construction style (wood with reinforced steel slat corners) and other features (the hasp, the hinges, and the handles) are classic military. In fact, they match the features of the Grindstone Chest I just found, linked here.
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by GUNNUT in Iowa » Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:46 pm

Robin wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm
Way too over engineered to be home made.
You probably haven't seen the stuff I make - at home.

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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Rustman » Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:40 am

Wingnutt wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 1:29 pm
Robin wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:41 pm
Way too over engineered to be home made.
Not only that, but the construction style (wood with reinforced steel slat corners) and other features (the hasp, the hinges, and the handles) are classic military. In fact, they match the features of the Grindstone Chest I just found, linked here.
I have no idea it's purpose either. But I was going to agree about the construction details. But now that you mentioned the Grindstone chest then that opens up the possibility of this having been on a wagon. We often think in terms of WW2 and later. But could this have been on a wagon, caisson or gun carriage??

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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Robin » Mon Jan 06, 2020 8:32 pm

Here are some close ups of the details.
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41 M3 37mm A/T gun
42 M1A1 75mm pack how
43 MBT trailer
43 WC52
43 WC62
44 Chevy 1.5 ton
44 MZ2 USMC radio Jeep
44 RL35 reel cart
44 K38 trailer
43 K52 trailer
43 M3A4 handcarts(8)
M1942 USMC handcart
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by W. Winget » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:53 am

I would opt for a Light set or something more admin...not quite paper trays there, but typically everything needs to be boxed for field deployment, and three lower trays might be light head assemblies :?: with interconnecting cord stowed in the upper tray :?: (as an example of alternate box use VS tools) the 4 handles indicate it was to be stowed flat, not on end so there is that as well.
What would come in issued in three might be a way to narrow it down some.
Radio gear would be too heavy
Not typewriter material
Maybe maps or graphic materials with three compartments for grease pencils, tape, staplers, erasers, pencils, but it's not set up well for that and most of those are straight up desks with small drawers.
Part of a audio system, i.e. long cord in top tray, three speaker connector cords in bottom trays?

Have to think outside the box :)
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by JAB » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:49 pm

IF the Philips head screws are original, it 's probably post-WWII, right?
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by GUNNUT in Iowa » Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:23 pm

JAB wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:49 pm
IF the Philips head screws are original, it 's probably post-WWII, right?
Mixed screws (straight and phillips) on the hinges and handles - not to mention the unpainted screws on the hinge.

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What appear to be identical replacement handles are available at Home Depot - with phillips screws instead of the straight ones on this box.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3- ... /202034098

They are pretty good handles. I used to use them on the boxes I built.
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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by Robin » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:13 pm

There are Phillips head screws and slotted head machine screws in the hinges. Phillips were patented in 1932. Now granted a few screws have obviously been replaced. But I'm confident this box is ww2 or earlier.
41 M3 37mm A/T gun
42 M1A1 75mm pack how
43 MBT trailer
43 WC52
43 WC62
44 Chevy 1.5 ton
44 MZ2 USMC radio Jeep
44 RL35 reel cart
44 K38 trailer
43 K52 trailer
43 M3A4 handcarts(8)
M1942 USMC handcart
M1917 Litter Carrier
M1917 Ammo cart
43 Columbia bike

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Re: Large wood tool box ID please

Post by phantomfixer » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:09 pm

this is similar construction style of post war folding field tables ...
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