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Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Rschiller3 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:42 am

So, someone between now and WWII welded a front bumper direct to the frame on my 44 MB. It’s not even a real bumper, just a c channel bar.
Now, it looks clean, and has worked fine for years, but I’m itching to get the correct parts out front.
BUT, I’m also a raging vintage tool nerd. I read somewhere the angle grinder didn’t come about until the 50s.
What would be the best, era correct, tool for me to cut the welded piece off with?
I know, a hack saw works.....but it wouldn’t be fun, and I have a selection of those already, old and new.
I need another old tool to restore, while I’m accumulating all the correct number parts....
Thanks in advance
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by lt.luke » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:03 am

Probably oxy-fuel


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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Bangle 99 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:24 pm

lt.luke wrote:Probably oxy-fuel


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That’s what I’d use. It’s quick and period correct.


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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:35 pm

Can you post a pic of how the bumper is welded to your frame? It might make a difference?
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Rschiller3 » Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:41 pm

Was kind of hoping for a power tool type thing, vs. going the cutting torch route. It would take a minute to put all of that together, period correct.

I have a reproduction tanker jacket I wear doing maintenance, to get the “I’m there” effect!
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:00 pm

I do (or used to do) 20 pushups to get warmed up.
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Rustman » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:24 am

Oxy-Acetylene would be correct. And although getting some tanks, hoses, regulator and torch head is easy enough finding the period correct ones, then all the accessories for the welders tool kit will slow you down.

But it sounds like you like to use vintage tools to do work on your Jeep. At my living history group "Iffy-Lube" we portray an Ordnance Medium Maintenance Company. We are looking for new recruits. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2666744620010392/


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And yes the gas welding components are on my want list for the display. It would be really interesting to the public, we can fix things AND compared to a welder-generator QUIET ;)

Good luck with your bumper.
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:52 am

One more thing for your WWII list.-O.D. T-Shirts. :wink:
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Bangle 99 » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:59 am

Joe Gopan wrote:One more thing for your WWII list.-O.D. T-Shirts. :wink:

Plenty of proof white tee shirts were available and used.


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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Nov 29, 2019 5:37 am

Not questioning that,
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Rschiller3 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:48 pm

Here are pics if anyone is curious:
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Rschiller3 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:50 pm

So I just checked some pics of MB front frame horns again, and it looks like most if not all the original is still there. Wonder if I should be worried that whomever whenever felt the need to weld this monster on there!
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by Rschiller3 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:55 pm

Rustman wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:24 am
Oxy-Acetylene would be correct. And although getting some tanks, hoses, regulator and torch head is easy enough finding the period correct ones, then all the accessories for the welders tool kit will slow you down.

But it sounds like you like to use vintage tools to do work on your Jeep. At my living history group "Iffy-Lube" we portray an Ordnance Medium Maintenance Company. We are looking for new recruits. https://www.facebook.com/groups/2666744620010392/



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And yes the gas welding components are on my want list for the display. It would be really interesting to the public, we can fix things AND compared to a welder-generator QUIET ;)

Good luck with your bumper.
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by lucas » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:55 pm

yes---when you need a crane to lift each of your tool boxes, we all may have a problem.. :)...I usually need some help lifting them from storage shelving....My wife not always around to help.....
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Re: Bumper replacement/cutting tool

Post by W. Winget » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:12 pm

Well if not a grinder, nor an Oxy floats your boat.....(please forgive the non-exact nomenclature)

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Hacksaw, metal frame, hand
Pliers, mechanics, hand, 6"
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Chisel, Machinist, Cold
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File, Machinist (Smooth)
Cup, Small to hold water, room temperature (to cool chisel)

Cut what you can away with the hacksaw, hopefully along the welds, use pliers to pry on metal after heating to snap welds, re-heat the residue welds with blow torch till red, place chisel, hit with ballpeen, cool chisel while reheating and continue, hand file with Bastard..
Last step file smooth,
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