1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by W. Winget » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:12 am

I think they may have just repackaged a lot of it. I see some added clips for pliers and such, possibly some more modern tools or those aligned with the mission. Would be neat to get either box.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by d42jeep » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:44 am

Great comparison. I think I see one of these cast iron file handles in both boxes.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by airborne-53 » Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:26 am

hello
great post
this cast iron handle is also on WW2 gas mask repair kit

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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by W. Winget » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:28 am

Looking over those photos, the Ball peen is labeled 1# (assume 1Lb) in all of them with exception of the "truck" tool kit where they upped it to a 2 Lb hammer. ( Guess the trucks needed more persuasion.. :lol: )

Have to wonder if it was the same Vilchek hammer that carried forward into the MB/GPW sets.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Wingnutt » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Not a tool, but I picked up this pack frame this morning at the flea, dated 1918, made in Interlaken, Switzerland, by K. Leuch Sattler (Saddler). Hard to tell from this pic, but the wood is painted green. I don't know if it's Swiss Army or what (Swiss were neutral in WWI), but it sure looks Infantry to me. Thoughts?

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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Silly's MB » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:06 pm

The Swiss had plenty of Borders to defend and big mountains to get gear up so I can see a pack board would be useful. Cool item.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Wingnutt » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:39 am

Good points, Rog. They definitely had an Army despite their neutrality. They also excelled at making the most of their neutrality commercially. They may have even supplied one or more of the antagonists. It's raining here today but I'll try to get some better pics when the weather clears. I was hoping to find a marking other than the maker and date. So far no luck.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Silly's MB » Fri Mar 15, 2019 6:11 am

They definitely supplied England and Germany with shells. It got a bit awkward, the Swiss were buying minerals from Germany and turning them into shells for the British. They had to come to an agreement.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by retro-roco » Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:10 am

W. Winget wrote:
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A few more shots, plenty out there of tool sets, the high res pics on some of those others offer hammer labels like vilcehk "test the best" or "best in tests" edge logos.
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I believe this photos are of at least two different toolsets. The top two pictures appear to be the chest for the signal corps toolset TE-6. Unsure without further research about the bottom two.

Here is a link: http://radionerds.com/index.php/File:TE-6_tool_kit.jpg
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Wingnutt » Fri Mar 15, 2019 8:47 am

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I met an archaeologist on the Swiss,German, French border after I found some German photographs of the area at the car boot sale. He showed me around and we tried to track down some of the places.
That's wonderful. Those are the kinds of ripples from original findings that make the hobby so worthwhile.

Thanks for the photos. It looks very close to the Pioneering pack. I was thinking it was the perfect width for ammunition containers, hence my initial Infantry guess. I have yet to weigh it, but I am guessing maybe 20 lbs by itself. Just the frame. It is very robust!
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Wingnutt » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:16 pm

I think it might be too short for the Pioneering pack. It measures roughly 28" x 14". I weighed it: 16 lbs! I also found a second marking on the long cargo strap. A fancified "K" in a square with the corners notched out. With a second date stamp, "21" (1921). So I think that strap may have been replaced. The winter light is not doing me any favor with the color, a nice forest green. In hindsight, I should've taken them in the shade, where the color is truer.

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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Liam9653 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:43 pm

W. Winget wrote:
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I know it's G503...but you come across tools without knowing some of them are from WWI, so here's some neat photos of tools off the National Archives collection I came across while hunting for my 1918 Standard B "Liberty" truck information. And just because their labels state they went to a certain vehicle does not mean they were exclusive to, or even ended up in that vehicle as the War ended about the time these were made and contracts changed quickly.
There are other "sets" and the originals of these are typically 20MB each.
Last comment: If you come across a few of these that do not interest you....I have a 1918 Standard B that would love a few....or find them a good home.
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These are good photos, they are detailed. Did you say you sell tools a 1918 Standard? I urgently need a new set of tools because I lost mine on the trip, I'm sorry, it was a whole suitcase.
 
I look after modern sets one of these https://wisepick.org/best-mechanics-tool-sets/. Reading the forum I realized that there are some tools that are not in these kits and I am sure they will be useful to me, while I am still new, I got the car 3 months ago. If you offer a good price for your set, I will definitely think about it, I hope they are in good condition and not sold.

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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by W. Winget » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:04 am

Liam: The photo's were taken over one hundred years ago in 1918...., if you find a set in the wrapper let us know.
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Re: 1918 Tool Kits (for comparison)

Post by Steve Webb » Thu May 02, 2019 9:05 am

Look at this video around 3 minute mark. May be the pack frame in use with light machine gun?

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I think I have found the gun

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