Differences GPW,GB,M201 - my observations

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Differences GPW,GB,M201 - my observations

Post by bigfeet » Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:15 am

Hi everyone,

My first post, I hope this is the right discussion page (I will also post in the M201 page as well) but I thought I really need some knowledge from GPW, MB Restorers/Owners so thought this page might be the best place.

I own an early M201 Hotchkiss, firstly I know this is discussed a lot and I have been through all the sites online that list the differences between the GPW, MB and M201 but I am left with a few questions.

I know my jeep will always be a "Salad Jeep" but I have got rather addicted to looking for wartime parts on my Jeep, I find it fascinating that it retains any original parts from WW2. It came in direct from France and I had it registered here in the UK around 2010 and it is currently painted with an RAF Roundel and is called Lizzie (named after my wife as I purchased the jeep 2 weeks before getting married!).

Anyway, I have discovered so far it retains a GPW rear axle, a GPW Transmission cover plate, 9 segment bonnet, brake pedal, radiator cap - but what else???

Here are my queries...

1. Like many M201's the tub retains evidence of it being a wartime tub like the floor start being welded up, the rear panel body brace being wartime pattern and a number of other welded up holes and repair sections. Thing is some say it's therefore a "modified wartime tub" but how is this possible if it does not have the famous instrument panel notch and has an M201 tub number stamped just above the fuel filter? Did wartime tubs get cut about i.e a new front section being welded on?? Is there any way of confirming one way or the other? My tub has the M201 reflectors at the rear with 4 holes but only 2 holes are drilled in the tub? surely if it was an M201 tub it would have all four holes drilled to match the M201 reflector? Mine has the angular cowl pillar brace of an M201 and has the ribbed floor panel on the inside of the glove box so what is going on?

2. Seats: The front drivers and passenger seats look identical to GB (The Ford I know is F Marked) thing is I see these for sale stating they are "wartime" but is there anyway of actually telling an M201 seat apart from a GB one?

3. Radiator: Again is there anyway of telling the difference between an M201 and a GB radiator? I believe the GPW was F marked.

There are other points but I think this is probably enough for now!! I told you I was addicted!

Just as a point of interest that doesn't seem to get mentioned is that my hand brake handle is WOF marked on the back, might help people looking for a wartime one.

I will get some pics of what ever is needed to help me make sense of what is what.

Thanks for reading!

Dan


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Re: Differences GPW,GB,M201 - my observations

Post by bigfeet » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:14 am

Will begin uploading some photos of my Jeep as requested.
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Post by bigfeet » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:21 am

Few shots of radiator and seats, sorry the pics are a bit dark! Happy to take more of course.
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Re: Differences GPW,GB,M201 - my observations

Post by Hotchkiss M201 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:32 am

Dan,
Nice Jeep! Your tub is a French tub. To the best of my knowledge, there's a welded starter hole because it may have originally been a 6 volt Jeep. When the French reconditioned all the Jeeps, it was converted to 24 volts, thus putting the starter switch on the dashboard, and a welded hole in your tub.


I suggest buying the book M201 by Pat Ware if you don't have it, it'll answer a lot of your questions.


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