tool box drain holes?

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Post by iron duck » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:19 am

To my opinion every jeep had those holes untill restoration was performed, it would make no sence to create a swimming pool in a jeep.
Very early slat grills had them already, why should they have stopped to do so ?
They should have done it if a substitute should have become standard.
My jeeps have good toolbox floors because bubba made new bigger holes in there as the original drain hole proved to get sludged all the time.

I have 4 slat grills, one GPW '42, One MB '43, all with those holes present.
Sometimes they are very hard to find under many layers of paint, or with dirt inside the toolboxes, but they are there.

The same type of hole was made each side of the windshield, except Ma's and very early slat grills.

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Post by Yinger » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:57 am

rgus wrote:Todd My 43 is one of the last Ford bodies done 9/11/43... What a date to have I guess.

What is the seial number of your 9/43? Mine is also 9/43 and is 139075.
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Post by rgus » Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:52 am

My number is 147954......... I would never have thought there could be that much difference between numbers and assembly plants??????? I sure wish Ford would have kept better records.

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Post by John » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:19 pm

I checked my july 43 gpw tub, and it does have the holes in the tool box side for drainage. I never noticed them before!

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Post by rgus » Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:59 pm

Here is mine;
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Post by John » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:56 pm

Rgus-Do you mean the hole between the rivets?Isn't that hole the one for the L-shaped bracket that holds the tube of the seat down?

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Post by rgus » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:30 pm

Yes it is. As I stated my 43 did not have any drain holes in it that I could find. I have not blasted it yet ( I am starting the frame up this spring)

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Post by iron duck » Sat Feb 10, 2007 12:01 am

Hi Rgus,

Look better on your picture, the hole can be seen, it is only half visible as the bottom of the toolbox covers half of the hole.
This has been done to make sure all the water can be drained.


Judging from that picture your jeep must be in good condition, Luc

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Post by rgus » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:29 am

Are you talking about the bottom left corner? I thought they were in the inside side wall so I just took a quick shot of it. I will get another today. I am a Dodge man ( have done 5) and I know crapola about these jeeps. I have a lot to learn. I am the second owner of this GPW. The origional owner was a returning vet who bought it from the City of Sacramento California in 1946 , built it it's own trailer and took it to Arizona to be his " Hunting Jeep". It is rust free and has the matching engine with 737 miles on it. He painted it white so he could find it in the woods and removed all the handles so I have to locate all the holes and redrill them. He died in 2005 and I bought it from his daughter.

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Post by Eddie Guffee » Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:23 am

My May,1942, GPW has 3/8 inch drain holes, half covered, on the inboard side of the tool boxes. In addition, a rectangular hole punched into the floor on the wheel side of the tool box floor.

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Post by breven52 » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:33 am

i would love to post a pic of my underside box but it is pretty much rusted out....is there any one who rebuilds trailer socket plugs?
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Post by iron duck » Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:57 pm

Rgus,

Very interesting story, you were very lucky with that jeep.
Not many of them without rot in the body !!

I am not a Dodge guy, but I own a VC 1 command car.
Mayby one day I will restore it as the body is rustfree.
This car is more familly friendly than a jeep !!!

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Post by jeepscott3 » Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:25 pm

This topic was well covered less than a week ago. I guess the topic title was a little misleading.

Script GPW bodys do have them and so do ACM type II.
It also sounds like ACM type I have them, but I have not checked mine.
Of coures nothing is always, but it seems like at least most have them.

I keep hearing about the hole for the seat "L" bracket, or trailer socket holes over and over. These aren't the drain hole. The are of drain hole, isn't even pictured in most of the photos that come up here. The photo posted by rgus actually shows just a sliver of the drain hole where the floor meets the side pannel, but it just looks like a black dash.
Go to http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=87640
and scroll down to the two posts by Rml1708. These are the best pictures I have seen in either of the posts here, and should clear up any confusion about what holes we are checking for.
Once we are all looking for the same holes, then we should find some more definitive answers.
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Post by Chuck Lutz » Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:37 pm

One reason it seems that the Script GPWs at least do not ALWAYS have the drain hole is evident on my 4/24/42 Chester, PA Script....

On the passenger side, the floor of the tool box is welded at the correct height in the box so that the hole in the interior wall allows any water in the tool box to drain into the rear seat area. On the driver's side the floor was welded just a bit too high on the walls and the hole for the drain is hidden by the 1/2" flange of the floor that is tacked against the interior wall of the rear seat area.

The hole in the side wall is there, but if you stick a screwdriver or ice pick in it you hit that flange/tab....

No, there has been no body work or Bubbafication over there so this is a factory installation setup. This problem might have occured on more than a few jeeps when they were welded together.....
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Post by gearhead » Sat Feb 10, 2007 8:37 pm

Ok, more fuel for the fire. :o :o
My 3-45 MB body has the drain holes, sorry cannot
find my s/n info, I bought the body tub separate.
The Frank Buck collection:
6-42 GPW s/n34386 drain holes.
10-42 GPW s/n 72015 drain holes.
12-42 GPW s/n 88300 drain holes.
?-43 GPW s/n 124460 drain holes.
7-44 MB s/n 356105 drain holes.
9-44 MB s/n 375617 drain holes.
3-45 GPW s/n 258913 drain holes.
6-45 GPW s/n 271022 drain holes.
Looked at all these jeeps today, holes are all very
visable, Frank stated that he has always observed
drain holes in the tool boxes.
With this and the other info already posted, I beleive that
the drain holes should be there.
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56 DJ-3A for sale
45 GPW 271022, USMC 46 CJ-2A 2WD"gasser"
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