TIRE REPAIR KIT
- alpino
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TIRE REPAIR KIT
working on a bit of the minutiae today & was wondering, did MB/GPWs come with a tire repair kit?
Was there actual military kits? or specific tire company kits? of generic kind of kits?
Cannot roll the machine out into the yard with 36" of new snow
they came with a lot of spares & repair parts.
Any info or photos?
THANK YOU
Was there actual military kits? or specific tire company kits? of generic kind of kits?
Cannot roll the machine out into the yard with 36" of new snow
they came with a lot of spares & repair parts.
Any info or photos?
THANK YOU
M38 1951 행운의 전쟁 조랑말 "Good Luck War Pony"
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
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44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
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GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
- dpcd67
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Is one in your TM 9-803?
Operators are not allowed to repair tires. That is a second echelon task.
Operators are not allowed to repair tires. That is a second echelon task.
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- alpino
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
okay sir, & I am sure you are a "sir"
but it says nothing in TM 9-803 about repairing inner tubes
I am asking this from an "outside the wire" [me], NCO [me], paratrooper [me] & cav scout [me] necessity
at least TO&E of a spare inner tube, or two, per vehicle
I am sure there was a need, you know 100 miles from the motor pool, behind enemy lines, Murphy's Law
hopefully someone else here can answer this question
but it says nothing in TM 9-803 about repairing inner tubes
I am asking this from an "outside the wire" [me], NCO [me], paratrooper [me] & cav scout [me] necessity
at least TO&E of a spare inner tube, or two, per vehicle
I am sure there was a need, you know 100 miles from the motor pool, behind enemy lines, Murphy's Law
hopefully someone else here can answer this question
M38 1951 행운의 전쟁 조랑말 "Good Luck War Pony"
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
- 17thAirborne
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
I spent over 30 years in uniform and many times we obtained what we needed above and beyond what was authorized because the government only provides what is stipulated in the TO&E and that is often lacking. We purchased what we needed, where we could get it and used it regardless of what the regs said. We also did repairs when needed rather than wait for upper echelon. Rules are many times made by bureaucrats and hinder the efficient operation of a unit. I would find any 1940s era repair kit and add it to the kit. I think there is a brand which looks like the camel cigarette pack. I have never looked for a military repair kit, so do not know what it looks like. I think you are on the right track, and your military experience tells you the same thing. Press on you resourceful NCO. I wish I had many more like you when I served and fewer sir's who stood in the way of the mission.
Oz
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Check out Jeepdraw.com - FOCUS ON G503 Tools & Equipment - section &:
http://jeepdraw.com/G503_SPARE_PARTS.html
http://jeepdraw.com/G503_SPARE_PARTS.html
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Here is a 1970's military kit, so I suspect there were similar things in the 40s
Oz
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
This is ww2 era 1944 dated.
Oz
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- dpcd67
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Don't get me wrong; Mission always comes first. I never stood in the way of resourceful NCOs and soldiers, ever. I did think you wanted what would be correct for your jeep, not what could have happened.
Now, having a lone vehicle so far from Org maintenance, which is actually your own unit, 100 miles away, that would be very unusual from a heavy mechanized task force frame of mind.
But, yes, if you want to have a repair kit, which will consist of the old patch, glue, and scrubber, in the tobacco can, by all means go for it. You already have the jack, lug wrench, and air pump. And spare wheel and tire.
Now, having a lone vehicle so far from Org maintenance, which is actually your own unit, 100 miles away, that would be very unusual from a heavy mechanized task force frame of mind.
But, yes, if you want to have a repair kit, which will consist of the old patch, glue, and scrubber, in the tobacco can, by all means go for it. You already have the jack, lug wrench, and air pump. And spare wheel and tire.
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Good to see you have that forward attitude! I think it is this type of initiative that makes a difference in the US Military. Great NCOs and junior officers getting things done using their brains and their resourcefulness.dpcd67 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:45 pmDon't get me wrong; Mission always comes first. I never stood in the way of resourceful NCOs and soldiers, ever. I did think you wanted what would be correct for your jeep, not what could have happened.
Now, having a lone vehicle so far from Org maintenance, which is actually your own unit, 100 miles away, that would be very unusual from a heavy mechanized task force frame of mind.
But, yes, if you want to have a repair kit, which will consist of the old patch, glue, and scrubber, in the tobacco can, by all means go for it. You already have the jack, lug wrench, and air pump. And spare wheel and tire.
Oz
Feb 43 GPW 98532 USA 20206257
Oct 70 Land Rover Series 2a 25334079G NZ16GF36
http://gpw.castraponere.com/ (My Restoration Page)
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
The simple answer is NO for Army Contract jeeps and YES for Marine and Export Contracts.
The Marine and Allied supply chains were anemic compared to the US Army. For this reason the spares kits that came with their jeeps were more robust. It had both a tube and tube repair kit. The tube repair kit that came in them was the Goodyear Small Tube Repair Kit.
A simple point is that combat rims are not easily broken down in the field and there are no tools in the jeep's tool kit to break the tire bead. This is what the spare tire is for. There is nothing stopping the operator from "acquiring" a repair kit if he wants one.
Hope this helps,
Peter
The Marine and Allied supply chains were anemic compared to the US Army. For this reason the spares kits that came with their jeeps were more robust. It had both a tube and tube repair kit. The tube repair kit that came in them was the Goodyear Small Tube Repair Kit.
A simple point is that combat rims are not easily broken down in the field and there are no tools in the jeep's tool kit to break the tire bead. This is what the spare tire is for. There is nothing stopping the operator from "acquiring" a repair kit if he wants one.
Hope this helps,
Peter
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
and to be honest to everyone, my club does trail rides away into the wild mountains of MT & WY
just wanted to be useful, & possibly authentic [looking]
in shows my 1st aid kit is 1945 to 1953 stuff, but most of the time, from going to get ice cream to "over" the Bridgers or Bighorns 100% modern
just wanted to be useful, & possibly authentic [looking]
in shows my 1st aid kit is 1945 to 1953 stuff, but most of the time, from going to get ice cream to "over" the Bridgers or Bighorns 100% modern
M38 1951 행운의 전쟁 조랑말 "Good Luck War Pony"
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Hahaha... I remember this thread on the topic.
Y'all know it was going to be referenced. I have been saying this for twenty years on these forums now!
Navy and USMC had it. So did the Canadians and some other MBs.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=248861
Y'all know it was going to be referenced. I have been saying this for twenty years on these forums now!
Navy and USMC had it. So did the Canadians and some other MBs.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=248861
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Nothing like 36" of spring snow! Bet Bridger is fun. I miss Bozeman.
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- alpino
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
THANK YOU for showing me/us this 2015 article or what ever they call them!Mark Tombleson wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:52 amHahaha... I remember this thread on the topic.
Y'all know it was going to be referenced. I have been saying this for twenty years on these forums now!
Navy and USMC had it. So did the Canadians and some other MBs.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=248861
Before I asked my question I typed "tire repair kit" into search and got nothing
the 2015 was excellent, some opinions eh
might as well mention in my mechanized career of 151s, & Humvees with sand bags on the floors for IEDs lmfao, then M1114s
having a Montana frame of mind I carried Vice-grips everywhere, as vital as hot sauce
indeed in MT we call them "the Montana socket set" & God help the Joe if the motor pool sergeant catches him!
funny stuff that is extra, & stuff never issued - heard we were supposed to be issued one of those stainless steel pocket knives,
NEVER saw one. Paratroopers were supposed to be issued an official switch-blade, never saw one
and then we were issued [not everyone] in Iraq those beautiful Butterfly switch-blades - every time I gave it to one of my troops
you want to see a happy 19 year old! We even got those write upside-down-in-the-rain Space Pens, but our M-14s......................
never saw a scope until 6 months in country, & officers were having wives send them printers & ink
ANYWAY I'm going to put a tyre repair kit in my GPW
M38 1951 행운의 전쟁 조랑말 "Good Luck War Pony"
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
GPW 1945 "Chow Hound"
M100 trailer 1951
MVPA #26463
LPCs Leather Personel Carriers 1980-2007 size 13.5 boots
44x carrier pigeons - military vehicles eh
A civilian reporter asked me at a post-Iraq awards ceremony "are purple hearts for enlisted men and bronze stars for officers?"
....Sancta Simplicitas
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Re: TIRE REPAIR KIT
Here's a serious WWII era tire repair vulcanizer kit;
but I don't think it's something you'd keep in the vehicle. I do think tire tube repair kit, that are still available for bike tires, etc. makes perfect sense for a hobbyist going off-road.-Jeff
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