ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Fred Coldwell » Sun Nov 27, 2011 6:19 am

Ben Dover wrote:I may still have a Passenger Door for this kit, will look for it.
Ben:

I would really enjoy seeing a photo of your passenger door for this ORD #7721446 top as I am trying to identify a few doors that might have been used with this MB canvas top. Thank you in advance for your assistance. :)
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:26 am

I will take a fast look later on. The Doors for the ORD 5701207 Kit are ORD 7335175 LH, and ORD 7335176 RH. They are 100% Identical in appearance to the later issue OD Color CJ-2A Doors with the larger windows and have the handles attached to the Door. The real difference when compared to the CJ-2A is that the door is shorter due to the shorter MB/GPW Windshields.
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Fred Coldwell » Sun Nov 27, 2011 8:09 am

Ben Dover wrote:I will take a fast look later on. The Doors for the ORD 5701207 Kit are ORD 7335175 LH, and ORD 7335176 RH. They are 100% Identical in appearance to the later issue OD Color CJ-2A Doors with the larger windows and have the handles attached to the Door. The real difference when compared to the CJ-2A is that the door is shorter due to the shorter MB/GPW Windshields.
The LH and RH doors you describe, with the CJ-2A style window frame, is the type of door I am trying to identify. But what throws me is that ORD 8 SNL G-503 dated August 1951 states, on page 213, that the left and right front doors # 7335175 and # 7335176 both use the same small squarish inner and outer windows frame (# 7335194 and #7335193) that is used on the top rear curtain, which you have pictured at the beginning of this thread. That small squarish window frame is nothing like the much larger CJ-2A door style window frame. That is what puzzles me and is why I look forward to your photos. Thanks!
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:40 pm

My MB Canvas door is gone. I either sold it or sent it to New Life. All I have left are the CJ-2A doors. The window was the larger one that followed the angle of the diagonal rod. Sorry.
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Fred Coldwell » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:43 pm

Thanks for looking, Ben. My search for data continues . . . .
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:46 am

This Correct Factory Jeep Top has Glossy Willys Beading and Ball Tips.
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by lucakiki » Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:55 pm

Ben Dover wrote:This Correct Factory Jeep Top has Glossy Willys Beading and Ball Tips.
Correct for what?
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:31 pm

Look it up.
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by lucakiki » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:21 am

Perhaps you meant that this beautiful top is correct on a jeep depicting post war service?
What about those fasteners? They may perform better than the standard capstan fasteners, but are they correct for the vintage of your Willys?

In other words,how pleased would be the judges with a factory class jeep sporting that kind of top and that kind of fasteners :?:
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:08 am

The type of Windshield Fasteners can be dictated by the source for the A-3216 Top, I got tired of having to stop every 5 miles and reattaching a Beachwood "OEM quality" Top to the windshield, GPW studs are the final solution. ( and the A-3216 top found a new owner shortly afterward).
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by lucakiki » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:41 am

Attention for details versus supposed practicality. It much depends on priorities and on whether one's vehicle might ever be entered for judgement.
Newbies should always be informed of diversions from original equipment, regardless of what dictated them. :idea:
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Fri Nov 01, 2013 8:28 pm

Preparing a Jeep for judging is fine, living the MB experience is better, especially when it brings back memories of young GI's driving Jeeps about at the WWII Air Base across the road, surplus Jeeps in the shop being worked on, years of happy Jeep parts customers swapping war stories, the local National Guard Armory with its Jeeps inside, Army Instructors sharing their WWII/Korea Jeep experiences. Every WWII Jeep owner has their own unique reason for owning their Jeep and the degree of restoration. The post war GI top on my MB with NOS GPW bows is fine for me, a repro A-3216 is in the works, but there are few of the old soldiers left who would recognize the difference between the Postwar top and the WWII version.
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Tue May 08, 2018 9:17 pm

Anyone else have an ORD 7721446 COVER (Top) or the original doors and hardware for this Post War Top?
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:40 pm

Been trying to find my NOS RH Door for this top. Last I saw of it was when I loaned it out to a dealer as a pattern- gone, but not forgotten.
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Re: ORD# 7721446 COVER (REPLACES A-3216)

Post by Joe Gopan » Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:31 pm

Anyone else have a GI Issue ORD 7721446 top?
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