What data plate was here?

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What data plate was here?

Post by Woody1 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:57 pm

I have a 42 GPW and am trying to fig your out what data plate was here the top one I think was a Reconditioned Data plate but the one on the bottom I have no idea what it was I can see what looks like A.F. blue were my jeep has a scratch if that helps
Thanks for any help
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Chuck Lutz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:13 pm

Jeeps in the 1944/1945 program to rebuild ones worn out here in service in the US were done by civilian contractors...Yours could be from one of them. As far as I know, only Stewart & Stevenson had a TWO rivet attachment with one at each end in the middle. The four rivet ones I know about were from:
Higgins
Moore Eq. Co.
W.A. Bechtel
Bechtel - McCone
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Allison Steel is 1 5/8" x 5 1/2"
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Woody1 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:27 pm

Thanks for the info any thoughts on what the bottom plate was?

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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by DanoZeman » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:33 pm

Looks like a shipping plate was there at some point dont have the measurements off hand.
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by snowdad » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:37 pm

Just checked my shipping plate. It is 3 1/8 inches by 1 3/4 inches. Mine is mounted at the location you show as top.
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Woody1 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:50 pm

I made another pic showing the bottom plate measurements better maybe
looking at your measurements I think its to big to be a shipping plate
thanks for your help
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by snowdad » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:41 am

Yes way too wide.
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Chris F » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:06 am

could those holes be for the first aid bracket? Just about the right position!

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Post by snowdad » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:12 pm

I think it is a little too high to be for the first aid kit bracket. If you look in AAW volume 2 in the back there is a page you can print out that prepositions the hole locations and according to that page it would be too high.
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Chuck Lutz » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:20 pm

A 42 GPW would not have had the First Aid Kit holes prepunched from the factory, so if the kit was retro-fitted, then the exact location of the holes might be a tad off of spec. There would be FOUR holes for the FAK, so take a look on the REAR of the dash to see if there were four since the photo seems to only show the top TWO of what might have been the FAK mounting holes.

If the top plate was in fact a Reconditioning Plate from a civilian shop in the USA as is suspected, the lower plate would still be unknown at this time as the Shipping Plate has been eliminated due to the dimensions of your plate location vs. the actual shipping plate specs.

On the other hand, maybe the top plate was one of those put on to honor a school or other organization that donated the money to pay for the jeep and the lower plate was a reconditioning plate?

If someone who has a US reconditioning plate can measure the size of it and the location of the two/four mounting holes in it, we might be able to determine more about this jeeps missing plates.
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Woody1 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:32 pm

Does any one have a pic of a plate to honour a school?
I fond this post the measurements very close to mine for the top plate
All so its hard to see in the pics but the Drive Screws heads are cut off but Screws are still there

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by Geezer » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 am
Tom,

The plate appears to be made of an aluminum alloy and is 5½" by 1¾" in size, with the mounting holes (which had screws not rivets) centered at 5⅛" and 1¼" apart.

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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Woody1 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:57 pm

I fond another post that may be the answer? and a pic
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Tim,

here is a pic of my bechtel tag...reads 5-23-45.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21414893@N" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... otostream/

unfortunately, there is a blank spot where the data plate should be. I believe the frame number is 6241. the 6 is buggered, so I am not 100% certain. here's a pic, I would like to hear peoples opinion.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21414893@N" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... otostream/

I am going to attempt to return this to original config...I too have a field cut trailer socket hole.

thanks,

Rob

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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Tom Lach » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:39 pm

Woody
I think you are on the right track. My 42 GPW was rebuilt by W A Bechtel 4/30/45. It has the rebuild tag above the shipping tag. The measurements for the holes would match the measurements in your pictures. One thing I hadn't noticed before is the shipping plate is about 1/8" narrower than the rebuild tag. Tag is 5 3/8 x 2 1/8
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Re: What data plate was here?

Post by Woody1 » Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:42 pm

Yes that helps Tom thanks between your jeep and Robs that most be it
Dos any one no if some one makes a reproduction of the lower plate?

Thank you, every one
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