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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by twinflyer17 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:21 pm

Tom,

Here are shots of my 43 GPW data tags:

DOD: 04-14-43
Serial #: 108175

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I don't have a shot of the frame stamp, as it was heavily pitted and i was only able to make out a portion of the 1, 8, and 175. I do know the body and fame were the same numbers, though. As for the engine, it is not original...it's a 46 CJ block with a GPW head.

Do you happen to know the USA serial number for this GPW, as well as the location where it was built?

Thanks!
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DOD 4/14/43 Louisville, KY USA20371070

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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by Tom Wolboldt » Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:27 pm

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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by bkalex » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:42 pm

Just picked up a 42 Willys MB today. The data plate is a Ford plate. The serial number stamped on it matches the MB frame tag. The DOD is 03-24-42. In the box next to Ford-GPW, it is stamped BRT instead of 1/4 T. What's the deal with this. I'll get you a picture of it tomorrow Tom.
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Post by bkalex » Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:47 pm

Also the Ford plate looks to be aluminum. The other two are brass.
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Post by Tom Wolboldt » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:05 pm

Photos will be interesting . Also remember repop data plates have on the market for 30 plus years now so even an old repop that was new can look old today.


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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by bkalex » Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:10 pm

Yeah. You would think they could at least get the right one. :D
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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by bkalex » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:01 pm

Tom, here's some pics of the data plate.
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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by Tom Wolboldt » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:20 am

Hi bkalex,

Someone went to some length to make up a data plate with MB data. The BRT, 130169 and 3-24-42 are all correct looking to each other. The plate you have originally looked like the one below. If you blow your data plate photo up 300 to 400 % you can see the first 3 in the weight and I believe a 7 after the stamped nine which originally was the second digit of the serial number and a 3 at the end of the box which would have been the original 6th digit . There may be a 7 under the 3 in the date as well.

I can not tell if the originally digits were sanded down, filled in or tapped out and then sanded.
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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by bkalex » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:09 am

So the data may be correct for my jeep. Just copied from the original tag maybe. The serial number matches the frame plate. What is the BRT? And thanks for the info.
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Post by Tom Wolboldt » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:16 am

The BRT stamp was for MBs made for Britain. At some point before they were to be shipped the US and England traded jeeps then or in the future and many BRT marked MBs stayed in the country and was used by the armed forces here.

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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by bkalex » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:16 am

Thanks Tom.
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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by Tinwoodsman » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:28 am

My GPW number 29508 brass data plate has a manufacturing date of July 1942. The plate only shows the 7 and the 42 and nothing in the middle of the date area. I have seen other data plate examples like this and would like to know if a specific factory did not include the actual day of manufacture?

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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by Tom Wolboldt » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:40 am

Hi Tinwoodsman.

From my GPW studies and database, The Richmond, Ca. GPW assembly plant only used a Day and Year on the GPW data plate.

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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by Tinwoodsman » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:53 am

Great! Thanks Tom.

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Re: More Data Plates INFORMATION Required Like THESE PHOTOS

Post by 43GPW98036 » Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:34 am

GPW 16906, DoD 5-11-42
Serial # on Data Plate and on motor mount.
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GPW 16906, DoD 11 MAY 1942, Louisville Branch

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