Is this a field mod or bubba?

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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by W. Winget » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:08 pm

UH-1 Huey's had ashtrays, and it was a mil vehicle...
Just sayin.
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Wolfman » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:19 am

Interesting !
Made numerous trips, sitting in the back of a Huey with my feet hanging out the door. Don't remember anyone smoking. At least not a cigarette. But, never rode up front either, and I will admit, I had other things on my mind at the moment.
One hand on the Collective. One hand on the Joystick. Wonder how you managed a smoke ?? Just thinking on-line.
Maybe on the ground between Sorties ??
Or maybe for the CO while on tour of the current AO ??
And could have been a request by the war department, just in the case of the last event mentioned.
And just for the record, sitting on your helmet didn't work. :?
I would still suggest holding off on patching the hole.
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by W. Winget » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:37 am

Under the edge of the dash, left one is closed (above the "BELL" tail rotor pedal, right one near center bottom lip of console (above the collective) appears to be open.
This is different from the one I remember seeing (later model maybe?), my Brother pulled one out of a range hulk that was rectangular and inserted into a slot like a pull out parts drawer bin from my memory. Clearly the tang to stuff out the butt is seen on the right ashtray that's open. Many other shots of more modern UH-1's don't have these added in.
Bet that added to the contract specs, what's a replacement ashtray for a UH-1 that was damaged in a fire fight cost in '68-72 or such? :shock: Now to look at PS Magazines for a replacement part number :lol:
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Scoutpilot » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:20 am

Wolfman wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:19 am
Interesting !
Made numerous trips, sitting in the back of a Huey with my feet hanging out the door. Don't remember anyone smoking. At least not a cigarette. But, never rode up front either, and I will admit, I had other things on my mind at the moment.
One hand on the Collective. One hand on the Joystick. Wonder how you managed a smoke ?? Just thinking on-line.
Maybe on the ground between Sorties ??
Or maybe for the CO while on tour of the current AO ??
And could have been a request by the war department, just in the case of the last event mentioned.
And just for the record, sitting on your helmet didn't work. :?
I would still suggest holding off on patching the hole.
Easy enough...Set the collective and trim the AC for your level flight profile. Apply friction to the collective. Left hand to the cyclic. Right hand to the sleeve pocket to retrieve the pack. Shake one loose and place it in position. Put the pack back. Still holding the cyclic with your left hand thumb and forefinger, reach in your side pocket and retrieve your Zippo. After getting the smoke started, return the Zippo to its pocket. Change hands again and enjoy your smoke.
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Chuck Lutz » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:28 am

Joel....

You mean THIS water bucket mounted on the gas can strap?

The one you think wasn't done in WWII?
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Chuck Lutz » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:33 am

Scoutpilot ....do you think the ash trays might have been included to prevent those up front from dropping cigarette butts that might have swirled around and possibly gotten jammed into some controls?
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Scoutpilot » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:51 am

Chuck Lutz wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:33 am
Scoutpilot ....do you think the ash trays might have been included to prevent those up front from dropping cigarette butts that might have swirled around and possibly gotten jammed into some controls?
They were simply included as a convenience. All controls were built up to prevent something like a tool getting in the way.
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Mark Jesic » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:05 pm

I would like to see a close up of this, whatever use it was\is, its a mystery to me.

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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by majmacs » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:34 pm

W. Winget wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:08 pm
UH-1 Huey's had ashtrays, and it was a mil vehicle...
Just sayin.
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H3 Sea King (or the CH124 Canadian variant we are retiring at end of November after 58 years in service) still have ashtrays at the pilot, copilot, TACCO and AESOP stations.
During My first deployment overseas as a Lt TACCO with some old school pilots up front,I heard the ICS call” disregard smoke in cockpit” prior to the pilots lighting cigarettes and cigars.
I always used my ashtray as a pencil holder.

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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Marty, SoCal » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:44 pm

There's a picture somewhere here on the G of a G503 in Korea with a cigarette lighter in the dash, and IIRC, an ashtray (Edit: Wrong). IIRC, a General was sitting in it (Edit: Wrong) . It's what made me decide to keep the cigar lighter hole in my dash and use it for a power port for the CB and phone charger.

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Ok, Found it :
viewtopic.php?f=108&t=183124&p=1062406& ... r#p1062406

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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by cjv-35 » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:13 pm

Great view of the dual wiper setup. Good pic for locating position of the vacuum tube hose clips. Looks like the driver side wiper was on when the jeep was turned off for it is not back in its park position. The passenger side looks to be in its park position. The engine is off by the looks of the gas gauge and oil pressure gauge.

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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Wolfman » Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:42 am

Great walk through on the proper way to "fire one up" inflight, S.C.
Cyclic. Proper term for a joy stick. 8)
I knew that. My fixed wing lingo slipping through. I own a tail dragger.
Always wanted to fly a helicopter. Just never got around to it.
But I have flown a Gyrocopter. Did not have a collective. Cyclic has a center and life is better when you find it and stay close ! You know what I mean !! :wink:
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Re: Is this a field mod or bubba?

Post by Scoutpilot » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:13 am

I do indeed sir! I do indeed.
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