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The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:10 pm

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The 'CONCO News' was a newsletter printed for employees of the H.D. Conkey Company of Mendota, Illinois, USA.
Usually known by their trade name: CONCO.
It was also sent to former employees that had entered the Armed Forces during WWII.

The first exhibit is just the inner page, so the exact date it was printed is unknown, but dates within the text narrow it down.
Items that I think may be of interest will be cropped out.
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I may also add speculative commentary. Discussion is welcome.


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Bob flew on an airplane like this,
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This image is not from the CONCO News.
Source:
http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac3/A ... liner.html

APO 616 was located in Egypt.
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Not from CONCO News.
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http://www.7tharmddiv.org/docrep/Locati ... 2-1947.pdf

Bob Ellingen is an engineer who leaves for vital war work in the Middle East.
I wonder if he was helping set up can and drum making plants.
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:19 pm

The reverse side of the page posted above.

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I would think a 'Hybrid' can would be the can in the center below.
It is a blend of the German type can(left), and the U.S. Army type can(right).


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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hybrid?s=t
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by Chuck Lutz » Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:19 pm

I got Mr. Holmes, Dr. Watson, Mr. Spock, Detective Colombo and a few of the gang to try to estimate the YEAR of this CONCO News....

Here are the findings:
Someone mentioned "Wednesday, July 15th"
There was a Wednesday, July 15th in 1942....
The first year that July 15th falls on a Wednesday after 1942 was......1953.
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:27 pm

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The guy 's name hand written on the top of the page was still alive in a news article dated November 11, 2013.

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Source: http://www.mendotareporter.com/v2_news_ ... 33&page=72

Article dated 11/11/2013: http://newstrib.com/main.asp?SectionID= ... leID=32715

Newsletter centerfold. Two photos were cut out at the upper right.
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The story continued from the front page is missing some content due to the cut out photos.
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More information of the crash of 'Little Butch', including a photo of SSgt Bernard R Coss of Mendota, Illinois.
1. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b ... 29964.html
2. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b ... z2oRAh05ZL
3. http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/b ... z2oRAh05ZL
4. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... 551&df=all&
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by REG » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:20 am

Keep them coming, Roy.

Love the reference to 'Conckies'
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:41 pm

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It appears Russell Brecht (above lower right)survived the War.
Can anyone identify the brand of beer he is drinking?
I didn't find anything on Charles, or Robert Hughes. Common names are the hardest to search.

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Source: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=90635632

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This is all I could find on Ralph I Faivre.
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Source: http://www.fold3.com/page/89648527_ralp ... re/photos/

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Looks like Edgar H Shoemaker became a POW, but survived the War.
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Source: http://www.ww2pow.info/index.php?page=d ... rec=113999

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It appears our engineer friend Bob Ellingen who departed for the Middle East is working for the Overseas Steel Container Corporation.

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Source(page 22): http://www.history.army.mil/html/books/ ... _10-11.pdf

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Source(pages 67,68): http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=u ... 1up;seq=80

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Edwin W Klein also survived the War. His employment at Conkey is mentioned in his obituary.
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Source: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=10451198

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Re: The CONCO News

Post by REG » Fri Dec 27, 2013 10:51 am

I see that in the same bulletin Dorothy Lemp is producing the bottoms of standard Jerrycans but the production line is 'Mystery Cans'.

Excellent detail, Roy, many thanks
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by Mark Tombleson » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:48 pm

Wow!


Conco was making those split cans. Those are great photos and I am going to spend some time and read the News. :D
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:46 pm

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Found this regarding Wayne Spenader.
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Source: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=81648525

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Source: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... i=71119816

He started his civilian practice in 1953.
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Source: http://www.mocavo.com/Sublette-Illinois ... /331099/28

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I didn't find anything on Edmund Robinson.

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Re: The CONCO News

Post by Mark Tombleson » Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:43 pm

Riddle me this...

Why do we have newsletter photos dated August 20, 1943 with both the German pattern cans being welded up and the USMC center spout can being made?

I always thought the German can was stolen, we use that pattern can until we engineered what we thought was a better can and progressed from there.

Or, is it possible the photos were not current and the German pattern cans were made a couple of years earlier and the photos are of mixed time frame?

The way I read the newsletter and look at the photos, well, they all appear current... around August 1943.
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:50 pm

Just a guess Mark, but maybe they made both concurrently.

Doubtful very much of the German type production machinery could be used to make the American type can.
The Marines and the Army want as much as you can produce as fast as you can make it.
Keep using the old production line while you add a new production line. Now hire more workers and you can produce around twice as many cans running both production lines simultaneously.

Excerpt from page 342 of Mendota, Illinois centennial book, 'Magnificent Whistle Stop'.

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Re: The CONCO News

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Re: The CONCO News

Post by bombtech » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:19 pm

Roy,
Thanks so much for posting the Conco news, it is a great reflection of the people and patriotism of our great country in a time of war. In my study of the photos a few questions come to mind for the group.
The cans in the photo “hitler shutters” seem to be what we have, till now, called the Mystery can. However in the photo “fair maiden” the can in background looks like the same type but is referred to as British. Does that suggest the cans were being made for the British forces? if so were they painted the dusty yellow colour we often see on Mystery cans in preparation for the British desert campaigns? Or were these cans patterned from the British supplied sample of the original German can, and thus called the British can? I find it hard to believe a US company was making cans for the British in August of 1943. By my limited database, the British had at least three companies making their cans in 1942 and eleven by 1943.
Next Evelyn, Dorothy and Eileen are all working on three-piece US pattern cans with the Euro cam lock spout. The text states these cans as both Hybrid and Marine, we on this forum have called them expeditionary cans. I wonder if this discrepancy is a factor of our diverse American language. Since many of the people working the line may have come from the nearby farms, the term hybrid was familiar. They would have clearly understood the mating of a USA pattern can body with the Euro design spout, just like cattle breeding or plant propagation. The term Marine can may have been from the contracting office or knowing the end user. As for expedition, during the prewar and war time, US and other forces were often called; Marine, Army, British, etc… Expeditionary Forces. I do not concur with the idea that they were called Expedition because of the X shaped side impressions.
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Re: The CONCO News

Post by gerrykan » Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:20 am

Rick,
As we usually find, the received information always seems to lead to more questions.

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I couldn't decide if they were referring that the cans being produced were for the British, patterned after a British supplied sample, or just a reference that somewhere a British lass was probably doing the same job for her Country.

A smaller version, since the printing process used is not conducive to enlargement.

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Re: The CONCO News

Post by Chuck Lutz » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:33 am

I would imagine that anyone writing an article on someone on the production line would first check to see if there was a file photo available. That photo might be current or a year or two old. If the subject of the photo was the person and their work on the line it would not matter which can they were working on. This is the same situation in the TMs we see all the time; a file photo addresses the SUBJECT of the photo so as long as an old photo does that a new one is not needed. A good example of that is the recurring photo of a transfer case in which the SUBJECT of that photo is to illustrate the rubber snubber mounted between the transfer case and the crossmember....which it does quite well. EXCEPT that it is a photo of an MA transfer case with the THIN shift levers and the anti-rattle springs are BETWEEN the levers! This has caused a lot of controversy since that photo was reused over and over again.

The author of the CONCO News may very well have used the term "British" or Marine or Expeditionary or Army...but no chance they'd call it the "German Gas Can Design".... The editor also used the term "hybrid" as well as an ex-inspector in July 1943 and the editor used the term "jerrican" on the same page.

I looked to see if those who wrote letters that were dated used one term or the other but I don't recall seeing anyone do that. I think the term "hybrid" was used in the Front Office or PR department and was not "created" by the workers themselves....they didn't write the copy that appeared under their photos. Without any idea of when the individual photos were taken it is not easy to formulate a timeline for the appearance of each version of the can at CONCO using that method.
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