Please help ID this jerry can holder

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Please help ID this jerry can holder

Post by macaddict23 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 12:27 am

To the left of the bottom/front strap are the numbers:

MS 53052-1
USMC


WW2, Korea or Vietnam era?

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Re: Please help ID this jerry can holder

Post by Chuck Lutz » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:23 am

Painted or stamped?
You need to post pics as there are some different fabrication details for them from different eras. Top, bottom, front and side. The folds, welds and seams give us hints to the time in which it was produced in many cases.
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Post by macaddict23 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:40 am

Chuck,

The marking is stamped. I'll post pics later.

In the meantime, can you tell me if this other one is WW2? The eBay seller told me he did not see any markings on the front lip. After doing a forum search here, "no numbers doesn't necessarily mean it's not a WW2 jerry can holder."

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Post by Chuck Lutz » Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:58 pm

The pics look like the WWII style to my eye. The straps/buckle are not the M38 style at all, the buckle is the WWII style....I'd say it is a WWII era at this point. There was no sign of the 42-B-xxxxx or the Dxxxxx stamped-in number on the front to the left or right of where the strap is attached?
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Note the three welding spots on the side.....yours has that feature and...the method of construction, the bottom assembly and tabs and holes match an original so I feel it is circa WWII.
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Post by Marty, SoCal » Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:43 am

Both my spare can brackets have the three deep but small spot welds, with no part number anywhere on the bracket:
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The one that came with the GPW has a number on the rear, and the three spot welds are larger, but shallow:
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Here's all three together. The black one was found at the local thrift store for $9!:
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Bottom view, except for the number and spot weld style difference on the one without the strap, all are made exactly the same:
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Re: Please help ID this jerry can holder

Post by macaddict23 » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:21 am

Chuck,

In regards to my original question, here's the can that has the following stamped on the front lip: MS 53052-I USMC

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Post by Chuck Lutz » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:26 am

That marking is unfamiliar to me and while the design of the carrier is one thing, the marking on that carrier does not look like a field mod or even a motorpool mod so it should be a mfger stamped-in marking....and that would indicate a possible USMC CONTRACT (but from what era?)....I know that an awful lot of jerry cans make by USMC (US Metal Can) are thought to be U.S.M.C (United States Marine Corps) so if anyone can identify the NUMBER stamped on it... "MS 53052-1"...perhaps it can be identified as either something for the Marines or a number put on by US Metal Can....

I have no idea myself....
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Post by Awd261 » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:14 am

Hi

here is post in which we can found the USMC number:
http://web.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161749" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and the direct answer from Jeff H:

quote="Jeff H"]Want more cross reference numbers? Check this out.
NSN 2590004736331
Information:
Click on Cage Code, Part Number, Company Name, or End Item Identification to search for similar inventory available for auction through Government Liquidation.

Cage Code: Part Number: Company Name:
00006 A4123 ACF-BRILL MOTORS CO
07860 C21452 BOGUE ELECTRIC MANUFACTURING CO. DBA BOGUE ELECTRIC MANUFACTURING CO.
0FW39 MS53052 STEWART & STEVENSON TACTICAL VEHICLE SYSTEMS LP
19207 MS53052-1 U S ARMY TANK AUTOMOTIVE COMMAND AMSTA-IM-MM
23862 08917Z MILITARY VEHICLES OPN GENERAL MOTORS TRUCK AND BUS GROUP MS 2603-02
24617 13211E4921 GENERAL MOTORS CORP
25022 1533212 MARK BODY TRUCK AND EQUIPMENT INC
56922 42B22590 JARVIS CUTTING TOOLS INC.
80064 51-2298 NAVAL SHIP SYSTEMS COMMAND
80244 611470 GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION FEDERAL SUPPLY SERVICE
81337 6566675 US ARMY NATICK RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER ATTN STRNC EMSS
96906 6566675 MILITARY STANDARDS PROMULGATED BY MILITARY DEPARTMENTS UNDER AUTHORITY OF DEFENSE STANDARDIZATION MANUAL 4120 3-M
97403 673457 CECOM LR CENTER


MRC: Requirement Name: Requirement:
NAME ITEM NAME BRACKET,VEHICULAR COMPONENTS
ABHP OVERALL LENGTH 14.500 INCHES NOMINAL
ABMK OVERALL WIDTH 6.875 INCHES NOMINAL
ABTB MOUNTING HOLE DIAMETER 0.406 INCHES NOMINAL
ABTJ MOUNTING HOLE QUANTITY 8
AFJH FURNISHED ITEMS STRAP ASSEMBLY
AGAV END ITEM IDENTIFICATION GUMMAN AEROSPACE A-10 AIRCRAFT
MATT MATERIAL STEEL
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Post by ng19delta » Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:22 pm

MS usually designates a Military Standard designation-= it is used in aircraft to indicate parts which meet a military standard design specification. It is very possible this has been applied to newer jerry can holders as well.

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Re: Please help ID this jerry can holder

Post by backsink » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:17 pm

Notice in the Technical Bulletin illustrated above that the title mentions "...Liquid Container..." Over the years I have accumulated about three dozen cans, usually from flea markets and yard sales. Two of those in the best condition were marked, by decal and stencil, as containing floor wax and the other one, insecticide. They did not get banged around so much as gas cans.

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Re: Please help ID this jerry can holder

Post by 4050 » Tue May 18, 2021 9:02 pm

I tried to hit the link from the 2011 post and it is no more. I recently acquired this very holder and am trying to learn what it’s application was for.

I have a ‘45 GPW so it’s not relevant to my collection. If anyone is in need and wants to make an offer with shipping from. 95993 let me know.


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