If i wanted to run a working toc for events. What do i need? I will be monitoring 4 recon teams. My radio knowledge is very limited. This would be for a Vietnam event. Would I want to run a 524 radio (too much out put)? Or just a couple of prcs 25/77 s? My range is going to be probably a mile away for each team. I understand that with a 524 I would need to have a generator and what else? If I just ran a couple of 25 or 77 or just need to have batteries or should I run the vehicular mode with a generator? And then what I need to set up an OE 254?
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If your range is just a mile, you don’t need anything other than your whip antennas. For Vietnam, you’d want an RC-292 antenna anyway. The RT-254 radio is a vehicle mounted radio. You wouldn’t dismount it and then hook it up to a generator. If you’re wanting to use it in a TOC setting, just run it out of a jeep or M577, or a Gamma Goat. You can hook the system up to use a generator, but the RT-524 is still going to be in a vehicle and you’ll slave your vehicle to the generator with a slave cable.
When I first got in the Army in 1985, we were still using all Vietnam era equipment in my unit. I’ll help you out the best I can.
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One 25 or 77 with "codes" (made up element names) for each element, all can stay on the same frequency with backup freq if needing to get 'chatty' or admin.
Less than a mile, a whip will do, as a base TOC though, you may want to run the long segmented antenna with the semi hard rubber base.
If wanted, a speaker on one connection and "porkchop" (microphone only) on the other will do.
The "Dogbone" (Mic and speaker) design will function, but need to be held up to your ear continuously.
Buy yourself a battery adapter and use D cells, or someone may have created a battery pack by now out of a LiPo RC car pack perhaps.
Keep it simple.
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Less than a mile, a whip will do, as a base TOC though, you may want to run the long segmented antenna with the semi hard rubber base.
If wanted, a speaker on one connection and "porkchop" (microphone only) on the other will do.
The "Dogbone" (Mic and speaker) design will function, but need to be held up to your ear continuously.
Buy yourself a battery adapter and use D cells, or someone may have created a battery pack by now out of a LiPo RC car pack perhaps.
Keep it simple.
V/R W Winget
PS: And do not be near any Military facility when transmitting. ...you are required to have an operators license and also NOT be on reserved military frequencies...
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I would personally run a prc-77 only as to keep the battery discussion simple. The prc-25 needs the filament voltage battery and to me the RT-524 is way too inefficient for 1 mile conversations (from setup and battery need perspectives) unless you have it setup already in a Jeep and you wish to use it with a generator or power conversation using 110v AC source;
Otherwise use the prc-77, use the longer whip and maybe a pair of RC batteries to be charged at night - the D-cell conversions are nice but D-cells don't run that long, you would need to replace them after one day use and running Nicads on them isn't advised as your starting voltage to too low to begin with and they won't last long- Avoid them IMHO.
If you are going to be chatting a lot get FOUR of these and pair them for get the 14.5v you need.
7.2v lipo venom or similar high end, https://www.amazon.com/s?k=7.2v+lipo+ve ... nb_sb_noss
I would personally go with FOUR 3000ma packs to have a pair for spare (you gang them together to get 14.4v); This way you can have one pair charging while you are using the other one. Get a good lipo charger and you would be able to run the radio for a long time.
Of course you can make the packs yourself using the following (See below) * Don't get cheap CHINESE junk with inflated ratings, these are protected Panasonics which will protect the cells against DAMAGE: You need 8 total and that should last you a long time , you charge it at night and use it in the morning:
https://www.18650batterystore.com/produ ... RsQAvD_BwE
Get two of these , 4x 18650 Battery Holder DIY Box Case from Ebay or Amazon: Hit me up if you have questions through private message.
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I would personally run a prc-77 only as to keep the battery discussion simple. The prc-25 needs the filament voltage battery and to me the RT-524 is way too inefficient for 1 mile conversations (from setup and battery need perspectives) unless you have it setup already in a Jeep and you wish to use it with a generator or power conversation using 110v AC source;
Otherwise use the prc-77, use the longer whip and maybe a pair of RC batteries to be charged at night - the D-cell conversions are nice but D-cells don't run that long, you would need to replace them after one day use and running Nicads on them isn't advised as your starting voltage to too low to begin with and they won't last long- Avoid them IMHO.
If you are going to be chatting a lot get FOUR of these and pair them for get the 14.5v you need.
7.2v lipo venom or similar high end, https://www.amazon.com/s?k=7.2v+lipo+ve ... nb_sb_noss
I would personally go with FOUR 3000ma packs to have a pair for spare (you gang them together to get 14.4v); This way you can have one pair charging while you are using the other one. Get a good lipo charger and you would be able to run the radio for a long time.
Of course you can make the packs yourself using the following (See below) * Don't get cheap CHINESE junk with inflated ratings, these are protected Panasonics which will protect the cells against DAMAGE: You need 8 total and that should last you a long time , you charge it at night and use it in the morning:
https://www.18650batterystore.com/produ ... RsQAvD_BwE
Get two of these , 4x 18650 Battery Holder DIY Box Case from Ebay or Amazon: Hit me up if you have questions through private message.
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