List of radios for WWII MVs.

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by jeepjohn » Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:10 am

Hello, I am new to this but was wondering....was this hole cut for a radio?

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by Bob W » Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:32 am

Although it is not WWII, I posted a 1951 list of authorized vehicle radios on my website here....
http://www.cj3a.info/sibling/Communicat ... ements.pdf
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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by Mark Tombleson » Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:06 am

Great find Bob! :D

Look at all those radios in all the different vehicles. :wink:
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Post by GreyWulf » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:40 am

This message is for Dallas,
Dallas, I just read on this thread that you had a 1945 cntract Grc-9. Wow. I didnt know they were mad that early. I thiught they were 1950 and on until I saw a Dec 1944 Prelim instruction manual on ebay. Sadly, I lost that auction. I try and collect photos of WWII sets for reference. Do you mind posting or sending some overall and detail pics of your reciever/xmtter?
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1943 GPW #135942
1943 PE-49F
1943 PE-75AC
1943 PE-77E
1944 PE-95G
SCR-177B, SCR-188A, SCR-274N, SCR-284, SCR-300,
SCR-508/528, SCR-509/510, SCR-593, TRC-2,
BC-312/314/342/344s, BC-348R/P/Q, BC-611C/D, BC-652A,
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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by xxx » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:14 am

Hi Dallas where you found an AN/GRC-9 with WW2 date contract? I'm nterested in it.


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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by groundhugger » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:33 pm

I bought a estate full of radios, I know nothing about them and would like to send some pics to anyone that can give me a email address to attach them to... I can not post on this site for some reason... I have one with a cover and mount R-174 URR and Power supply PP-308/URR.......... Some hand held reciever transmitters RT-196/PRC-6.... I have a few mounted in my military vehicles but would like to have a idea what some would be worth, some even have tags on them that they were checked out.... anyone that wants to see some pics just email me at neuby47@hotmail.com and I will send them out.....

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by BWLentz » Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:18 pm

Question:

I haven't had enough time to read through yet but wanted to ask.. What would be the correct radio for a 1944 Willys MB for the 101st Airborne?

Thanks for the help!
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Post by CARNAC » Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:59 pm

I'm probably not the expert here but I will descibe how I found the answer to this question myself.

First I identified the unit my jeep would be from. For me D Company, 83rd Recon Battalion, 3d Armored Division.
Next I searched the internet for the FM (Field Manual) and TO&E (Table of Organiztion and Equipment) for that type of unit. Cavalry (they were actually a recon battalion but under a cav TO&E).
Reviewed the FM and the TO&E and found that I needed a SCR-510.


So you're looking for 101st Airborne. You need to narrow that down and then let your fingers to the walking.

Good luck

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by BWLentz » Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:19 pm

CARNAC wrote:I'm probably not the expert here but I will descibe how I found the answer to this question myself.

First I identified the unit my jeep would be from. For me D Company, 83rd Recon Battalion, 3d Armored Division.
Next I searched the internet for the FM (Field Manual) and TO&E (Table of Organiztion and Equipment) for that type of unit. Cavalry (they were actually a recon battalion but under a cav TO&E).
Reviewed the FM and the TO&E and found that I needed a SCR-510.


So you're looking for 101st Airborne. You need to narrow that down and then let your fingers to the walking.

Good luck
Carnac,

I apologize for not responding sooner, I completely forgot I posted here. Thanks for the help and I really like the way you conducted that research... Truth be told, I never even thought about the TO&E. Thanks for the advice and my fingers are walking away as we speak!

Thanks,

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by thidisbogus » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:09 pm

Good thread

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by CARNAC » Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:36 pm

Gotta have some fun here for one of the comments on here. I'm sitting bored at the airport Soooooo...

The Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. I know this is true because it was on the movie Animal House. The war was over in 1944 when Germany overran the country of Sweden.

Just having some fun with a previous post I read. Have a sense of humor.

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by AROOGA » Sat Apr 18, 2015 11:21 am

Gents,

Just happened to notice Badin's Q. from early in this heroic effort . The AN/PRC-8,9 and 10's were primarily Manpacked VHF (FM) radios. They could be mobilized in an MV, but that's nice and not the primary intent. It's been a long time for me, but the USMC employment of AN/PRC-8's was primarily for Artillery Units and the AN/PRC-10's were primarily assigned Infantry Units. The Freq. Range was different, but there was enough overlap to allow compatible cross-pollination type networks were that was necessary. I'm still scratchin on the AN/PRC-9's. The AN/PRC-25 Line/Series of radios replaced them circa RVN.

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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by Gordon_M » Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:28 am

The T-36 Snow Tractor was assigned to air crash rescue and recovery, and according to Fred Crismon in US Military Tracked Vehicles it came with the SCR-187, being BC-191 Transmitter, BC-224 Receiver, plus a transmitter tuning unit ( various, such up to TU-10 ) a BC-306 Antenna Tuning Unit, and BC-309 Radio Control Box.
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1941 Highway Trailer K-38
1943 Ben Hur
1944 Iron Fireman T-36 Snow Tractor
1944 Saginaw M19 ski trailer x 2
1950 Saginaw M19 ski trailer x 2
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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by wa5cab » Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:27 pm

Bob,

AN/PRC-8 was Armor band, AN/PRC-9 Artillery and AN/PRC-10 Infantry. RT-174/PRC-8 has always been the least common of the three.
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Re: List of radios for WWII MVs.

Post by MkDorney » Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:14 am

If you're going for radios that actually work, and you wish to actually talk to somebody, legality and compatibility are the main issues you're going to run into. First off, you're going to need a Ham radio operators licence. This is not the daunting task it once was. There is no longer a Morse code requirement, and the tests are simple enough to pass with a little study. I highly recommend Gordon West's study guides for test prep. The content is explained in plain English (as opposed to technicaleese), making the content easy to understand. I'm no radio guru, but using Mr. West's study guides, I was able to get my Amateur Extra ticket in one day. The Amateur Radio Relay League can help you find out where Ham Radio Exams are being given (they will also try to sell you their study guide. It's very thorough, but also very confusing for me.

As far as radio frequencies are concerned, for voice communications, on the 75/80 meter AM bands, 3885 Kc is a commonly used frequency for WW2 radios. Vehicle radios that can operate unmodified on this frequency include the BC-1306 and the BC-654. The BC-611 Handie Talkie can also be set to operate on this frequency (one will find that most of the BC-611s on the market today are already set to this frequency). The downside to the BC-654 and BC-1306 radios is the fact that these radios take up a lot of room in a vehicle, especially a jeep. The plus side is radio range.

On the FM side of the house, 29.6 MHz is on the top end of the 10 meter FM Band in the phone section of the most common band plan used in the USA, the one put together by the ARRL. 29.6 MHz is the voice FM Simplex frequency for the 10 meter band (direct radio to radio contact frequency). WW2 radios capable of operating on 29.6 MHz include the BC-659 ( but NOT the BC-620. The way to quickly tell these radios apart is that the BC-659 has a built in speaker mounted on one corner of the face plate of the radio, the BC-620 does not) and the SCR-608. Both the BC-659 and BC-620 radios are two trick ponies in that they can only operate on 2 set frequencies at any one time. The BC-659 is the jeep radio that you want if you wish to actually operate the radio. The FM Simplex frequency for 10 meters (29.6 MHZ) should be one of the set frequencies, probably your "A" channel for the radio. For the "B" channel, locally in southern NY, we use 29.1 MHz as the talk frequency. This allows an operator to get off the crowded FM Simplex Frequency Channel and still communicate without interfering with any of the Ham Radio satellite uplink frequencies, and the frequencies of local repeaters ( interfering is a big no-no, and can draw the unwanted attention of other HAM operators and the FCC ). The SCR 608 has a VFO, so the frequency in use can be change more easily by the operator. The downside of the SCR-608 is size - the radio takes up a lot of room. Size is an advantage with the BC-659, on the other hand. This radio is the fender mounted jeep radio that has everything stacked upon itself on 1 jeep fender well. The down side of the BC-659 is range.

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