WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by captain caos » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:33 am

Bart1015 wrote:
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I went with a simi-auto 1919a4. I just could not justify spending 1/3 of the price for a gun that does not work.

I bought mine from a builder on the 1919a4.com forum.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by halfgun » Mon Aug 10, 2020 4:45 am

I have M1919 parts kit with 80% right side plate and all machining done for semi,was done by John Mcguire
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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by Scroungerm5 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:55 pm

I have a few semi's that have been assembled, test fired and then put away. Two 30 cal, on 7.62. Sorry but not cheap, $3100 each

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by teletech » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:47 am

I've got a very nice all metal 1919, made from GI parts and new metal. No engraving and It's got some rust from sitting in a barn on a vehicle but would clean up very nicely.
I'm willing to part with it for your target of $1000. (plus shipping)

Message me if you are interested or I'll PM when I get a chance.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by Scroungerm5 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:33 pm

unfortunately these are no longer available. In all his infinite wisdom, Gov Gruesome has determined these as assault weapons. what a dichead.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by teletech » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:27 pm

Scroungerm5 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:33 pm
unfortunately these are no longer available. In all his infinite wisdom, Gov Gruesome has determined these as assault weapons. what a dichead.
Sorry, I missed the law that made a semi 1919A4 an AW, could you elaborate please?
I know the A6 would be a rifle and so could be problematic.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by Scroungerm5 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:05 pm

SB 118, just passed. Look about half way through it. They just kind of hid it in there.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by YLG80 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:26 pm

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Well a 'capable' 3D Printer costs around $200 now, spools of PLA are $20 each
I suppose you could take photos and enter them into the computer, break the model into 3-5 'chunks' for a 100% scale receiver and have them interlock for strength, then insert a dummy (or printed) barrel and paint one. .
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The only limitation would be the 3D printer table size, for the barrel for example.
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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by W. Winget » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:34 am

PVC drilled Pipe for the barrel and jacket no need to 3D all the parts, print the barrel to shroud front part so they slip together, buy a handgrip, maybe a box of steel and hang/screw/glue the 3D printed sight and other parts on it perhaps.
A Cyborg of M1919 display, electronic "bang", LED super bright light in the barrel end, shaker module to rock it back and forth like an aircraft yoke shaker...
Who knows, might make a neat kids toy too.
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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by Bart1015 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:24 am

Scroungerm5 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:05 pm
SB 118, just passed. Look about half way through it. They just kind of hid it in there.
I have read the bill text and I just don't see how 1919a4 brownings are now illegal.

Regarding firearm parts:

The bill restricts "firearm precursor parts" beginning in 2022. So, in essence, parts kits are ok to buy in california without using a dealer up until 2022. Once the law in effect, a person can still buy parts kits from a firearm vender (FFL) but the purchase will be recorded and sent to the CA DOJ.

Regarding the expansion of the Assault Weapons definition:

Below is a quote that may mislead the reader into thinking Brownings are included. However, the Browning is longer than 30 inches and it does not have a fixed magazine. This new law was created specifically to prohibit the use of a high cap (standard) mag in a bullet button (or similar) equipped rifle.

"This bill would expand the definition of “assault weapon” to include a semiautomatic firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that either does not have a fixed magazine but has any one of the attributes currently associated with assault weapons, as specified, that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, or that has an overall length of less than 30 inches."

For reference:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... 20200SB118

If you see it differently, please let me know. I could be missing something.
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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by Scroungerm5 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:48 am

I have to admit that I know little about this stuff. I try to stay out of trouble as best I can. As I find out more, or if anyone out there finds out more, please post here. Thanks.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by mtflorio » Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:50 pm

I haven't read the California law but what could be a determining factor is the Browning accepts a belt or links for its feed device and since these can hold more than 15 rounds you have an assault rifle.
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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by teletech » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:04 pm

Scroungerm5 wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:05 pm
SB 118, just passed. Look about half way through it. They just kind of hid it in there.
Hmm, yeah, looks like they closed the MG-lookalike exemption alright, unless you build it as a bolt-action and that's not much fun.

SEC. 38. Section 30515 of the Penal Code is amended to read:

30515. (a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:
(9) A semiautomatic centerfire firearm that is not a rifle, pistol, or shotgun, that does not have a fixed magazine, but that has any one of the following:
(I) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.

It would be interesting to challenge this on the basis that for the 1919 the shroud does in effect act in the same manner as a slide, but you'd best have deep pockets to try it.
Worth noting that if you already owned such a weapon as of September 1, you can register it as an assault-weapon until the first of January 2022. So if you have a 1919A4 and register it, you can make it into an A6, etc. Cold comfort that.

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Re: WTB: M1919 Browning for Jeep

Post by W. Winget » Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:15 am

Easy enough, have the LEO hold the barrel shroud while you pump 300-500 rounds out of it and see if it "allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning the bearer’s hand"
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