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Suprise of the day

Post by Wolfman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:45 am

Pawn Stars don't have anything on me. I never know what will come through my door.
Had a guy walk into my office yesterday with a duffle bag. Announced he had some old military stuff he was going to sell and thought I might be interested. Maybe.
This guy had no military experience.
He started pulling old stuff out. A WWI dough boy helmet. A pair of Mickey Mouse combat boots. A couple of aluminum canteens in canvas carriers.
Then he pulled out a pineapple hand grenade. Intact, with pin & pull ring. :shock:
That is when I launched off my chair and grabbed it. Did not get blew up 48 years ago and dang sure did not want blew up in my own office now !!
He started laughing and said " it is only a dumby", and I am thinking, Yeh!! and you didn't know the gun was loaded !
Turns out it is a practice grenade. Mouse trap and spring removed and a big hole in the bottom with nothing inside. Handle is painted blue.
Markings on top off the handle are Fuze M-228 Model 013-005. The pineapple had P - F - X on one side and on the other side a 5. Big blue dot on the side of the fuse body.
Wondering how old this thing is. May not be enough intel to find out. I know it is older than 1970. We had baseball grenades then.
When did the Military make the change ?
I bought it. Got the pineapple sand blasted and painted O.D. and will use it for a paper weight on my office desk. Nice conversation piece. :D
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by W. Winget » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:16 am

But did you get the WWI Helmet??? That's the valuable one.
Passed on well handled original practice Pineapple Grenade in Florida while traveling, figured it wouldn't be a good time to mail or check baggage it on the way home. Many have tried going through TSA "innocently" only to cause a big stir.
M16 ammo pouches were set up for baseball grenade from the start.
Mk2(pineapple), M46(pineapple),M26,M33, M61(oval), M67(Baseball), M69(baseball practice) the M dated number is likely the date they standardized, the Pineapple was used from 1918 until Korea, so there are many of them out there to compare, the R,K and other markings seem familiar to one I've had before, but cannot date it.
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by YLG80 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:06 am

Excellent story !
Did not get blew up 48 years ago and dang sure did not want blew up in my own office now !!
I imagine that situation in your office :)!
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a big hole in the bottom with nothing inside. Handle is painted blue.
That's correct for practice ammunition.
This is the M228 fuze together with the modern plastic grenade container version.
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There is one fuze with the big hole that shows that the spring is unloaded.
The other fuze shows the primer, the delay composition in green and the detonator in yellow..
We were manufacturing thousands of these grenades (practice or not)
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Post by Mark Jesic » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:16 am

Thats amazing Mike.

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Post by Radtech » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:21 am

Years ago when I worked in one of the gun shops that I had worked at a customer brought in a box of stuff his brother had brought back from Vietnam.A bunch of Vietcong equipment and two live Chinese hand grenades.We called the BATF who came and picked them up with no questions asked considering one of the agents was one of our best customers.Several times we came into work to find boxes setting outside our door with 50 cal to 30mm live rounds just left on our door step.If it has a solid base and an OD spoon and a yellow band around the neck then it is time to worry.


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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by 917601 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:42 pm

Pics helpful. RFX made the MK2, and the post war M26 until the current M67 Frag. Fakes are everywhere ( mostly RFX marked) most are poorly cast trainers. The current frag, M67 came out in the late 60's, after the M26 stocks were exhausted. All - MK2, M26 and M67 were used in Vietnam era. Unmolested ( blue) trainers bring $75-$250. I was offered $250 for my WW2 MK2 trainer w/ short spoon...See pics of my collection for types. US grenade collecting requires much experience and knowledge in acquiring a " real deal". Study up, Internet has many sites to bring you up to speed.
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by 917601 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:54 pm

I will add, a current M67 frag inert manufacture sample just sold for $800.....and a genuine in perfect condition WW2 Dated MK 2 brought $350 at current auction....a pre 1942 MK2 yellow with lead plug brought $400, and last year I saw a WW2 MK 2 in the dated fibre container bring $550.....one more tip, notice modern baseball trainers, Vietnam dated used the old FSN number, NSN numbers came out in late 1972 and used today. At those prices, it pays to be able to tell fakes( or put togethers) from the real deals, no idea if current realized prices will " stick".

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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by Wolfman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

Good intel. Honestly, I didn't expect much response on this one. Thanks !!
917 - the grenade is just like the one in the center of the picture you posted with all the grenades sitting in a line on a shelf. #5 from either end.
:D $75 to $250. 8) I gave the guy $10.
You are right W.W. Should have bought the Dough Boy helmet. I let it walk out ! :?
I have a marine buddy that has two of these on a chain hanging from the pintle hook on his M-38. He says it gives his jeep a macho effect. :roll: Guess I mentioned he was a Marine ! :lol:
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by GUNNUT in Iowa » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:04 pm

Was it a nuclear grenade like this one?

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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by Wolfman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:11 pm

Now that is a grenade.
Pull the pin and let the handle fly and you might as well just have a seat and wait for the show. You could not run far enough, let alone through it, to make any difference in 4 seconds.
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by GUNNUT in Iowa » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:47 pm

Wolfman wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:11 pm
Now that is a grenade.
Pull the pin and let the handle fly and you might as well just have a seat and wait for the show. You could not run far enough, let alone through it, to make any difference in 4 seconds.
Yes, that is what I thought too.

I figured, if I was going to make one that big, I just as well make it nuclear.

(NOTE TO HOMELAND SECURITY: This is NOT a functioning nuclear hand grenade.)
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by Old Dodge Guy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:06 pm

///////////Now THAT may qualify for the Monty Python "Holy Hand Grenade" :shock: :shock: :lol:
Still crazy after all these years.
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Re: Suprise of the day

Post by Falldownjaeger » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:00 pm

917601, your info about the M26 is inaccurate. We were still throwing live M26 Grenades as part of our annual qualifications in Berlin, in the 1990s. I assume we had M33 (impact fused) and M67 in our war stocks. Like we had Vietnam era 81mm HE for training purposes and the improved Brit 81mm for our war stock.

But, we also still had M67 90mm Recoilless Rifles in our Weapons Squad, too. He had thousands of 90mm RR Rounds in our training stock at Wildflecken when they shut down. To get rid of them, we blasted through hundreds of HE and Fleshette Rounds during our last EDRE because nobody else in Europe had 90s anymore
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