WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

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WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by Coventry1975 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:40 pm

Hi,

I'm looking for 4 ben hur trailer top bows, ideally in Europe if possible?

Kind regards

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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by D.R.H. » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:25 pm

I purchased a set of four dated 1952 from Brent Mullins Jeep parts last year. He was down to the bottom of the barrel of His stock then, but still may have some left. Oddly enough, the batch He purchased came from Europe and brought home to Texas. Try Him, you might get lucky. :)
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by timsresort » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:25 am

I was going down the path of bending my own until I ran into a set on here. They are reproductions, but so will be my side racks. Bending that small arch doesn't look too tough.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by D.R.H. » Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:30 pm

Hi Tim, I found this guys' video last year. He is informative and thorough on steam bending wood. Also, if you don't want to go the trouble of bending your own wood, you can always find some surplus "M" series bows and cut them to length. They have the same dimensions as the W.W. 2 type.

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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by Ben Dover » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:51 pm

J.Tonka used to advertise fresh made bows in"Supply Line"
It's been a couple years. New looks better than over age cracked originals.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by D.R.H. » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:42 pm

I agree Ben, but every now and then the Olive Drab gods do throw a bone into the mix. Here are the bows I purchased from Brent Mullins. I was shocked to find them in such good shape. I called to thank Him and He said that He had others that were in better shape but had sold all of them by the time He sold mine to me.

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This was the only warped bow which I fixed with wet towels and a clothes iron. The wood is in great shape for its' age.
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Here they are on the trailer.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by Ben Dover » Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:53 pm

A Ben restoration is fun, I bought my G-518 Bows from Brian Asbury in Canada in the 70's. It gave me a chance to use up a lot of my 40's `1/4" NC Square Nuts.
I made all of the Side Rack Brackets per the Roy Hamilton Drawing, The Latches were done on a press I made at the machine shop.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by Ben Dover » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:10 pm

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These are hard to come by.
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This Clamp for stowing the landing gear is elusive. They came either cast or forged.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by timsresort » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:05 pm

So I have a question for you guys, do the carriage bolts in the racks have any ID marks on the heads?
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by timsresort » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:08 pm

Ben Dover wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:53 pm
A Ben restoration is fun, I bought my G-518 Bows from Brian Asbury in Canada in the 70's. It gave me a chance to use up a lot of my 40's `1/4" NC Square Nuts.
I made all of the Side Rack Brackets per the Roy Hamilton Drawing, The Latches were done on a press I made at the machine shop.Ben Hur Brackets 002.JPGBen Hur Brackets 003.JPGBen Hur Brackets 004.JPGBen Hur Brackets 005.JPGBen Hur Brackets 006.JPGBen Hur Brackets 007.JPG
That's cool, I was thinking about having to make the latches, but looked up a guy that has been selling the HW at Tower Park for years, and got a set for my build.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by tractor12 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:37 pm

Tim glad you finally got ahold of Greg
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by Ben Dover » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:00 am

I have a hunch that if one checks around the established truck body dealers that the exact latches can be found. Many stake and platform truck bodies of the 40's and later are similar and some may be the same.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by Ben Dover » Wed Jan 23, 2019 6:05 am

Finding new unplated carriage bolts is part of the search, I have never paid attention to the heads being marked. I had some WWII era Ford packaged carriage bolts that were 5/16" with plain head and parkerized. They were for the cargo body.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by timsresort » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:52 pm

tractor12 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:37 pm
Tim glad you finally got ahold of Greg
Yes, thanks for helping, I was beginning to think about making them myself.
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Re: WTB: Ben Hur Top Bows.

Post by D.R.H. » Wed Jan 23, 2019 8:37 pm

I believe my gates to be original Tim. I took everything apart last Feb., sanded all the wood down to get rid of the surface dry rot. I used a wire wheel on my bench grinder to clean all the nuts, washers and carriage bolts. I did NOT find any makers marks on them.

Ben, I like the pictures you took of your B.H. trailer. The wood and the tarpaulin look very nice. I sent an Email to John Worthing in England to touch base about buying a tarp for mine. John told me that they would be making a run of B.H. tarps. very soon. I can't wait!!!
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