Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

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Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:27 pm

A couple of weeks a go Tommy Harris came by my yard to pick up some parts for his 2 Sterling HCS330's and a WWII 8 ton semitrailer I had for sale. He showed up with a beautiful Federal F-1 fuel tractor he had just picked up that morning from Martha's Vineyard - an island off the coast of Massachusetts.

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This shot shows Tommy doing the final binding of my trailer I just loaded for him and my Sterling still covered up for the winter behind it.
Anyway getting this trailer out of the yard freed up enough space so I would have enough room to get my freightliner boom truck along side and finally get on with the teardown of my Sterling to begin restoration.



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Here's my Sterling uncovered and ready for breakdown

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Rear shot shows the wrecker boom and tower which I'll take off first

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Here I've removed the cable and set the boom down then drove out the main pivot pin at the base of the boom. Then I backed in my Freightliner to pick the boom off:

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I've got the boom and about to swing it over the deck of the Freightliner to set up in front of my freight trailers I store parts and vehicles in:

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More photos will be posted later - next I'll pick off the tower in one lift. Hope my little boom truck can handle it!
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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by Jeff L » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:02 am

That Sterling is a heck of a truck. It looks to be in pretty good shape. Keep us posted on your progress.
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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:56 pm

It looks clean in the photo and does run and drive but so many parts are frozen in place, mickey moused and held together with bailing wire - it still needs a complete restoration.

Today I drove out the bolts (about 20 1" x 6") that hold the tower to the frame, then separated 2 chains that drive PTO's which technically freed the body from the frame...that tower is putting up a major fight in loosening it's grip on the frame. I've got 4 20 ton jacks pushing up on the tower base. Initially I succeeded only in lifting the entire truck off the ground. After a few hours the truck frame dropped down a half an inch. So I've got 7 1/2 inches to go then I can try picking it off with the boom truck .
If that is more than it can handle...ie. the LMI cuts out then I'll take it off like I did from my other one 10 years ago and winch it back off the frame by greasing the frame rails and skidding it on the rails.

BTW Jeff, I just joined your group. For some reason I thought that the JUST OLD TRUCKS site was an ATHS forum in their chat room.

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Post by Jeff L » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:33 pm

David, most of the JOT members used to be on the ATHS forums, but moved over when some changes were made over there. JOT is a great site for the civilian trucks. Thanks for joining.
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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:08 pm

Got the tower off today. Initially it maxed my LMI and wouldn't make the full lift! Given the geometry of my load angle using a single pulley block I was able to lift 18,200lbs and my LMI indicated I exceeded that!

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SO I had to trim at least a few hundred pounds...I decided to take off the outrigger stabilizer legs. Each one is over a hundred lbs.

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I tried lifting off again this time super slow so I wouldn't have any chance of spiking the Load Indicator.. mass x velocity = force so slow decreases the burden on the main winch and since I was right on the edge of maxing it... Got It!

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Post by acmack » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:35 pm

After seeing the Mack NO reconfigured as a tractor that Jeff L posted a little while ago:

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I wondered how the Sterling would look...I had a leftover 5th wheel from a 42' Federal tractor 93x74 and a piggyback winch from a mid 40's truck so I laid them in place:

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The Toyota pickup in the foreground gives you some idea how big this unit is. The Toyota is a 4x4 with oversized mudders not a little 4x2.
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Post by Bodger Baz » Sat Aug 03, 2013 10:47 am

nice to see a 330 being saved, such an amazing truck. best of luck with it
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Post by Gordon_M » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:33 am

We'll need plenty of images please ....

It looks to be big and heavy, but simple. How many of them did they make - it wasn't a big production run I remember.
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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:22 pm

Gordon, from a collection of chassis numbers that Frank Buck was keeping on the HCS 330 military model (which amounts to an off-the-shelf HCS 330 with the Garwood 16ton boom assy and a 45,000lb bumper mounted winch and special oversized flattened front fenders) it looks like there was 150 built.
This is a number I'm proposing based on the fact that the serial numbers ranged between 500-650 ie I have seen no numbers under 500 and none over 650. Maybe Sterling produced 150 for military contracts but not all HCS330's were built in C-2 configuration, I know the military purchased many in stock civilian form as road tractors.
Maybe the total is much smaller which would explain why there are ZERO photos of the HCS 330 (in C-2 configuration) in military use wartime or post war, however, there are surviving photos of the stock civilian version of the HCS330 in wartime military service in tractor configuration.

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Post by Gordon_M » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:29 pm

Thanks for that.

I'm not aware of any outside the US during WW2. Even today I think only the one ( or two ? ) at the museum in Holland is / are outside the US.
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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:39 am

Gordon, I saw a fully restored HCS330 for sale on MilWeb about a year ago. The location was Holland so I figured it was the Overloon museum was selling it off. The listing was up for about one month then dissapeared.

Anyone know who purchased it or if it is still in Overloon?

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Post by Gordon_M » Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:42 am

Must have been big bucks then, given the rarity and the size of the thing. Didn't see it myself - wonder if you could drive it on European roads with Pacific-type removal of outer duals?

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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:16 pm

The axle width with the outer duals off is 8' 6" but the boom tower base is 10' wide so you are still just as wide and far more prone to tip over on crowned roads or soft shoulders!

The nice thing about my temporary tractor configuration is that I can now fit it into a garage bay and work indoors! Also I don't have to worry about rear swingout knocking a section of garage wall down as I negotiate a turn in the yard.

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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by Prop Trailer » Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:25 am

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Think both big boys are still around..................with a lot of other nice stuff!

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Re: Finally started my 1942 Sterling HCS330 resto

Post by acmack » Mon Aug 05, 2013 6:48 am

Alot of nice stuff alright...but I didn't see the Sterling HCS 330. I did see the Sterling DDS235 and the Federal C-2 Model 606D and the Ward Lafrance wreckers.

Thanks for those great photos.

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