1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Sun May 14, 2017 9:39 pm

My parts book says the part number for the correct rear winch on a C2 is a Gar Wood 22Y6359B. I'm not sure of the capacity. The original rear drag winch is located just forward of the rear bumper. In civilian life most C2's, like mine, had the original rear winch removed and a larger one installed in place of the 5th wheel. This added winch used the pto and winch drive from the original. If anyone has an original C2 rear winch, along with the 110 generator, spotlights, and 5th wheel, I'm interested.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Sun Aug 13, 2017 7:01 pm

The "new" Federal 606 is here. It is a 606D, s/n 113278 which should make it a 1943, perhaps even a late 1942 model. There is no data plate, but it is 634 s/n's older than my other C2, 113912, which was delivered January 1944. All in all I am pretty pleased with the new Federal. It runs, drives, and stops, builds air rather quickly, and seems to be in overall good mechanical condition. Even the air assist steering works. It has a working inertia starter complete with crank, the original seat and seat tray, and the windshield opening hardware and brackets, all of which are missing on the other truck. On the bad side, the cab and sheet metal is pretty rough. The wood in the cab, particularly the door jambs, is either rotten or gone. The drivers door came off a long time ago, and the passenger door came off in my hand when I tried to open it. The ignition switch was a household light switch, and the wiring to it burned up 10 minutes after we unloaded. There were 3 ways to start the truck, but none of them could be done from inside the cab ! That has since been fixed. The inertia starter really came in handy as the truck arrived with a dead battery. We had to crank it up to get it off the trailer. Fortunately it starts in about 2 fan blades. Here are some pictures.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Sun Sep 03, 2017 6:44 pm

I had the twins out yesterday for a couple of photos together.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by 70th Division » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:54 pm

Hello,

Nice save Jeff , on those Federals !!

They certainly are big !!!
Surely, Kings of the Road !!! :D :D :D

Best Regards,

Ray

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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Sat Nov 11, 2017 1:42 pm

I made a video of the '43 606 inertia starter in use. It is the same type of starter used by some aircraft in the 1920's and 1930's. It was original equipment on the C2 wreckers and some of the other big WW2 trucks.

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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff Jensen » Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:17 pm

Down south Jeff Had my federal running today.
I need inertia starter for mine if you find one.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:00 pm

Up North Jeff,

Most of these trucks had the inertia starters removed years ago, I got lucky that the Matt's garage truck still has one and the crank too. It's an Elipse Aviation Engine Starter. Eclipse was a division of Bendix. I think the model is B-9. It seems like something that might show up on ebay. I'll keep my eyes open.

How is that HXD running ? They are sweet when they are running right.

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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Fri May 22, 2020 11:11 am

It has been ages since this thread has been updated, coming up on 2-1/2 years. My original intention was to part out the red Matt's Garage Federal to help restore the orange Myroncuk House Movers wrecker. However the red Federal ran and drove pretty good, so I had it hauled to a truck show here in Florida in 2019. I was very surprised by the reaction it got. Most people had never seen a 7-1/2 6x6 before, and folks just loved the truck. They were even more amazed by the inertia starter, which I demonstrated several times during the show. A number of people told me I should keep the truck just the way it was and not part it out. So I decided to make it road worthy and preserve it in its current state, warts and all. A new old stock carburetor and a rebuilt fuel pump got the big Hercules HXD running smoothly. A new regulator, used generator and new wiring got the charging system up to speed. All the lights are rewired, including the ancient turn signal/flasher switch that was added sometime after the war, so all the lights are working. All the tires have been replaced with some nearly new 1100-20's. I also sandblasted, sealed, and painted the fuel tank (to match the patina). It's been to three shows this year before the Covid madness began, a local car show, the ATCA truck show in Leesburg, and the MVPA show in Mount Dora. I got a trophy for "Best Rat Rod" at the car show, go figure lol ! Here are a few photos.

2019 at the truck show in Leesburg
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New(er) tires
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Refurbished fuel tank
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At Leesburg this year. It draws a crowd.
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Last month I made a video of a ride around the block.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by nhs275 » Mon May 25, 2020 6:00 pm

Good call not parting out the red one Jeff! Nice video too - top speed in the video is maybe 30 mph? Engine sounds great! Pretty interesting 5th gear is toward the driver and up - same spot as a post-war Timken 5000 series. I’m making extremely slow progress on my Navy DD115 Sterling - but any progress is better than no progress. I’m moving to a new place around the corner - found a house on 5 acres and now have enough room to finally build a shop. Dave Decker, Reno NV.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Dozerman51 » Mon May 25, 2020 7:46 pm

That garage wrecker must have a been a thing of beauty when it was doing it’s thing. Looks like the garage took pride in keeping it looking good. It has a heater and defroster set up in it. Doubt the military had heaters in their vehicles other than the Ambulances and Big Shot staff cars. Boy it would be nice to see a photo of it when in Garage service. Matt Towing must have been really proud of that truck. I guess now it is just too cost prohibitive to restore it to it’s previous glory. Sad, sad.

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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Jeff L » Tue May 26, 2020 11:08 am

Dave, the transmission is a 5 speed Spicer 7851 with OD on 5th gear. I was running about 25 mph by my phone GPS. I'm keeping the speed down until I have an accurate tach as redline is 1800. I'm glad to hear you got a new place. 5 acres will keep you busy !

Dozerman, I still plan to do a full restoration on the orange Myroncuk House Movers C2. But now that my parts truck is no longer a parts truck, I need another parts truck ! However I am looking for a Gar Wood US6 boom for the Matt's garage truck, as all the PTO's work and it would not take much to make it an operational wrecker again. I would like to find the older curved boom if possible. The Matt's truck is by no means beyond restoration, but I'll leave that to the next owner, if I ever decide to sell it. I would love to find a photo of this truck When Matt's had it, but one has not turned up yet. I do have a photo taken sometime after the boom was removed when it was owned by Hamilton Towing in South Bend. I'm still in search of a photo of it with the boom.
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by Dozerman51 » Tue May 26, 2020 4:46 pm

Hi Jeff,
Thanks for the photo of the truck. I’m sure when you get through with a full restoration of the house movers C2 it will be an awesome thing to see. Too bad I’m on the opposite coast or I would come and view your trucks. Keep us posted on the progress. Take care and stay healthy,
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Re: 1944 Federal 606 C2 Wrecker

Post by kw573 » Tue May 26, 2020 4:59 pm

Hi,
I'm a bit confused.

When you say 'boom', do you literally mean the boom, or are you referring to the entire wrecker crane assembly?
Or . . . ?

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