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Post by pierino » Sat May 08, 2021 5:01 am

A courtesy! I’m away from my archives, but I was asked for pictures of ORIGINAL set up of carburetor/governor of a T-215 in a WC-21...

Could somebody help me?

Thank you!!
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Post by zepher11 » Sat May 08, 2021 5:26 am

This is a bit rough, but a shot from my original WC21 engine compartment. Maybe this could help?
WC16 Engine Compartment 12.JPG
Dodge WC21 - T215 Governor
I can get a shot of a restored T215 governor set up either using vacuum or mechanical distributor later when I get in the shop if that would be needed.
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Post by pierino » Sat May 08, 2021 7:25 am

Thank you Zeph what I would need is the way the ADAPTER goes... leading towards driver or pax sides??
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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Re: !! I need a courtesy urgently!

Post by pierino » Wed May 12, 2021 5:56 am

zepher11 wrote:
Sat May 08, 2021 5:26 am

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I can get a shot of a restored T215 governor set up either using vacuum or mechanical distributor later when I get in the shop if that would be needed.

YES, PLEASE, ZEPH...MANY SHOTS... now I'm definetely in the need of looking of the final arrangment of a complex distributor/carby... I assume that you using the governor type coming from Joel, correct? ...I also emailed him for such a informations...

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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Post by zepher11 » Wed May 12, 2021 8:48 am

This is the governor I used. Didn't get it from Joel. I have a couple of them. This is the way it was installed on a couple of original trucks I had. I think some folks say it's backwards. Seems to work fine for me. Vacuum advance distributor T-211:

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Post by pierino » Wed May 12, 2021 9:39 am

thank you Zeph... where is this tube going??
CC_0289 with question.jpg

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M
1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Post by zepher11 » Wed May 12, 2021 2:13 pm

pierino wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 9:39 am
thank you Zeph... where is this tube going??

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M
It runs to the vacuum advance mechanism on the distributor. I highlighted in red below:
Command Car 37.JPG
Vacuum Line
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Post by pierino » Wed May 12, 2021 11:10 pm

mmhmmmm... I have no vacuum advance on my T-215 engine...


and, on the outlet where you connected the tube to vacuum, I've written "CARB." ... :shock:


could you be so kind to tell me on every picture what is the threaded outlet for? ...I'm very confused...


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maurizio

p.s this Governor is V65S-145
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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Re: !! I need a courtesy urgently!

Post by zepher11 » Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 am

pierino wrote:
Wed May 12, 2021 11:10 pm
mmhmmmm... I have no vacuum advance on my T-215 engine...


and, on the outlet where you connected the tube to vacuum, I've written "CARB." ... :shock:


could you be so kind to tell me on every picture what is the threaded outlet for? ...I'm very confused...


thank you
maurizio

p.s this Governor is V65S-145
The vacuum advance distributors were eliminated in the middle of the T211 series and replaced with the mechanical distributor. The T215 series trucks are all mechanical distributors. Therefore, there are no vacuum lines to the governor. The vacuum port is plugged at the inlet for the vacuum line. The governor is sandwiched between the carb and intake manifold. There are gaskets at the top and bottom of the governor mating surfaces, or course. That is all:

These are from my T215 series Dodge WC:
Command Car 39.JPG
T215 GOV 1
Command Car 38.JPG
T215 GOV 2
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Post by pierino » Thu May 13, 2021 6:26 am

zepher11 wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 5:33 am

The vacuum port is plugged at the inlet for the vacuum line.
ok
That is all:
but what is this port for? :?
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1938 Ford Eifel
1941 Dodge WC21
1941 Ford GP
1942 Ford GTB, matching #'s
1943 Huffman model 81
1943 R.I.A. Hand Cart M3A4
1943 Willys MB
1943 Highway Trailer K-38
1944 Ford GPW, matching #'s
1944 Cushman 39G
1944 Harley WLA
1944 Converto Dump 1/2 Ton
1944 VW TYP166 Schwimmwagen
1944 Chevrolet G-7163 K-44
1960 Willys MB-T
1943 Stinson L-5 SOLD w/sadness

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Re: !! I need a courtesy urgently!

Post by zepher11 » Thu May 13, 2021 7:53 am

pierino wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 6:26 am

but what is this port for? :?

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maurizio
Any port on the governor would be for vacuum. I would plug all ports or it'll be sucking air.
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Post by Ken Creason » Thu May 13, 2021 9:46 am

Nice save Zeph! :)
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Post by zepher11 » Thu May 13, 2021 9:56 am

Ken Creason wrote:
Thu May 13, 2021 9:46 am
Nice save Zeph! :)
Thanks! I also found that the vacuum port at the base of the carburetor needs to be plugged as well. 8)

Here's the plug in my governor for my T215 series Dodge WC:
Command Car 40.JPG
Keep Plugging Along....
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