G506 / G7107 / G4112 Identification help

[M35a2duece]

The engine side panels are defintely early, but were likely swapped. The grill guard is the late style, the engine compartment does not appear to be early, and the dash and gauges are also consistent with the later 'N' model trucks. The battery holder is also mounted outside the frame, and behind the cab. The cab has the corresponding cut out on the passenger side lower rear corner. The early trucks had the battery under the floor board inside the cab.

Bubba was quite busy with this truck with the windshield header, dumpbox, dumpbox hydraulics and control levers (is that another lever between the fron seats??)

There are a number of things that make me think a fire department might have owne this truck at one time. No sign of the frront mounted pump that some of the crash tracks have. You might try removing the sheet metal covering the windshield header to see if you can find data plate screw holes or even plates. I'm guessing the plates are gone from when they added the new sheetmetal.

BTW, under the hood it appears to be relatively untouched (from what I could see).

Yes there is another lever between the seats. It's a door knob actually on top of a rod the that runs to a hydraulic valve that used to go to a super rigged up v plow they had on the front.

I tried pulling the patch tin half way off over the steering wheel to the left of the wiper motor. A rust hole is all that's back there. I see 2 blank holes right above the edge of the patch that I could guess was 2 of the 4 rivets that held the plate. Would there be any other plates?

Would you be able to guess I year? I was told 42. But who knows

[42cargo]

I think your best shot at getting an approximate date on this truck will come from the casting codes on the engine, the head, the transmission and the transfer case.

[retro-roco]

You can also check your windshield and door window glass for dates.

[M35a2duece]

Thanks for the additional photos. A lot of potential on this truck, for sure.

For certain, that bed, lift assembly and PTO are off something else. Here's what an original Hercules hoist looks like:



Lift up the mat on the floor and see what the floorboard looks like. The G506 dump should have two controls, PTO engage and up/down:



Here's what the PTO levers and the bracket the mounts to the inside of the frame under the driver's floorboard looks like. See if the bracket might still be bolted to the frame:


The helper springs look like they could be originals and yet the bracket for mounting the bed in your photo looks like what was used on cargo trucks, although it's upside down on yours. Here's an image from my old project where I converted a cargo to a dump. The shorter bracket is for a dump truck. The longer one is for a cargo bed:



Are the stops for the helper springs welded or riveted to the frame? If they are welded, then I'd lean toward this being a cargo.

What's really nice is that you have a bunch of original items under the hood, including noise suppression straps and filters; what appears to be an original voltage regulator; and the radiator bypass valve that runs from the top of the radiator to the rear section of the head.

Look at the engine serial number, which is on the flat boss by the distributor. It should start with BV if it's the original 235 engine. Also, if you remove the starter (or possibly get a mirror to see between it and the block) you'll find an alpha-numeric code cast into the block. That's the date it was cast. I'm doing this from memory, but it should be something like B 6 2, which would be February, 6, 1942.

Feel free to post more photos if you have the chance.

Hope this is helpful,

John

As for the spring overload stops they are bolted and goober welded. However there are other things that are bolted where rivets once was as the pulled out over the ages. Also here some more pics of the old brackets from whatever else used to be attached and another picture of the leaf springs if it helps

As for the pto linkage bracket under the cab... nothing. But here is a picture of the floor. Looks pretty not factory to me.

Then there's the block. Next to the distributor it's a gost... nothing. Doesn't look scratched out or ground off, just nothing there.....

I got a casting number or something under that however

3698374 with a M and big number 48 above it in a circle above it, and a 10 below it.



Im really starting to wonder what's going on here lol.

And thanks to all you guys! Amazing helpfulness and knowledge here!

[42cargo]

Here are some other links that might be helpful. This might be wishful thinking on my part, but I believe that if you clean up the main casting number, you might find it's 3693374, which would be a Chevrolet 235 from '42-'49.

http://devestechnet.com/Images/Projects ... s001lg.jpg

Here's an image of the date code behind the starter: http://devestechnet.com/Images/Projects ... s004lg.jpg

http://devestechnet.com/Home/CastingNumbers

This is for a later year, but look at the location of the date code on the head and check yours.

http://www.1954advance-design.com/Web%2 ... -nums.html

Looking forward to seeing what you locate.

Also, does this vehicle have a generator or did someone replace it with an alternator?

John

[42cargo]

This image makes me almost 100 percent sure this was a cargo truck originally. This bracket secures the front part of the cargo bed to the frame. The dumps don't have this, but rather have a vertical piece of steel that guides the bed into position over the chassis when it's lowered.

download/file.php?id=172595&mode=view

[M35a2duece]

Here are some other links that might be helpful. This might be wishful thinking on my part, but I believe that if you clean up the main casting number, you might find it's 3693374, which would be a Chevrolet 235 from '42-'49.

http://devestechnet.com/Images/Projects ... s001lg.jpg

Here's an image of the date code behind the starter: http://devestechnet.com/Images/Projects ... s004lg.jpg

http://devestechnet.com/Home/CastingNumbers

This is for a later year, but look at the location of the date code on the head and check yours.

http://www.1954advance-design.com/Web%2 ... -nums.html

Looking forward to seeing what you locate.

Also, does this vehicle have a generator or did someone replace it with an alternator?

John

Thanks that's awesome! I might very well have read it wrong it was very hard to get a picture up inside there and what you say makes perfect sense. I'll have to try and get more pics tomorrow perhaps

And yes. It has an alternator now. No generator anymore

[M35a2duece]

This image makes me almost 100 percent sure this was a cargo truck originally. This bracket secures the front part of the cargo bed to the frame. The dumps don't have this, but rather have a vertical piece of steel that guides the bed into position over the chassis when it's lowered.

download/file.php?id=172595&mode=view

Thank you. That's making a lot of sense based on the rest of the evedence

[waayfast]

Thanks for the up close photos, it IS a nice truck.
Looks more and more like a "late" year truck so the data plates you need would have been on the header panel. Bad news it is missing but good news is you have a perfect rearview mirror! Take that out and put it somewhere safe and guard it with your life!!

[M35a2duece]

Thanks for the up close photos, it IS a nice truck.
Looks more and more like a "late" year truck so the data plates you need would have been on the header panel. Bad news it is missing but good news is you have a perfect rearview mirror! Take that out and put it somewhere safe and guard it with your life!!

Haha are they that hard to come by?

[waayfast]

Yes ,they seem to be pretty hard to find. I have two I have removed from my trucks and they are hidden away safe and sound on the shelf right next to the Holy Grail.

[M35a2duece]

Does anyone know any information about the gvwr for these trucks? I need this info if I'm going to pursue a replacement title and I have no clue as to what it should be. A picture of someone's tag would be amazing information as I will need to show the state inspector im guessing.

Pic is blurry but there's a field for gvwr, gvwr front, gvwr rear.

[M35a2duece]

Yes ,they seem to be pretty hard to find. I have two I have removed from my trucks and they are hidden away safe and sound on the shelf right next to the Holy Grail.

Wow never would have guessed! That's pretty neat!

[Tonywan Kanobby]

Here are pics of two of the data plates on the header panel of my spare cab.

This plate has got the smallest typeset of any I have ever seen (needed a magnifying glass). It reads as follows:
Make & Model Chevrolet 7117
Serial # 9NM21 2067
Weight 8215
Gross Wt 11535
DoD 9/42

This one is interesting. Not sure of what all of it means.

Hope this helps.

As an aside, if I may. Hey waayfast. Cmon man ! Everybody shares stuff. What's your price ? Everything's got a price, right ? I need one of those mirrors !


Tony

[42cargo]

I think you'll find a wealth of information in this: https://archive.org/details/TM9-805/mode/2up