Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

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Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by Jean Georges » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:18 am

Hi all ,

Anyone who have these tailgate T handle lock keyed ?
I am paying top bucks for these
Thanks for the help
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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by ziro » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:39 pm

:D
I have a NOS one. But the problem is, that I'm looking by my self for another one. :lol:

Interesting is, that your key cylinder is larger as mine.

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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by Jean Georges » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:29 am

Hi ,

Interesting indeed , i supposed yours is after market issue because it does not show the H700 key
My WC 56 command car has been originally delivered with H700 key since i have got the building
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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by ziro » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:37 pm

The H700 key which is shown on the build card is for the ignition lock. I have the same for mine and it is on my build card shown, too. I have this NOS handle and two used ones. All three handles have not the H700 key and they have all the lock in the same size. Not so large as yours. I think the rear cover is locked not with the H700 key.

But did we have here no other ones with original handles? :D

And I think not, that mine is a post war. Because it was in his original package... ;-)

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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by Jean Georges » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:10 pm

Hi

Here is my tailgate T handle as they were when i have got the WC56 command car and Carry all
I agree that it is shown ignition H 700 on my Chrysler built cart but why having 2 types of keys to make your live difficult ?
It should also normally show on the built cart if the vehicles had 2 type of keys
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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by mdainsd » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:56 am

My '42 has the original T handles on the tailgate. they have the large cylinder and are keyed for H700
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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by ziro » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:59 am

Here another pair. I know now five, all with small cylinders.
For me it makes sense to use another key for the tailgate. Because with the H700 was nothing safe.
So you mean that it was for every WLA rider possible to open the tailgate with his ignition key? :)

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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by ziro » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:08 am

Again to the H700 key for the tailgate.

You said that the build card shows the key. The last sign for the H700 key is on the vehicle build cards for Command Cars in November 1942. After that no build card shows the H700 writing.
I couldn't find a 1943/1944 build card with body 19 and the sign on the build card "H700" :wink:

When it changed to the key less ignition switch what happened then with the tailgate locks? :mrgreen:

Please when you have more information, show me please.

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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by Jean Georges » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:00 am

Hello Ziro ,

Then what would have been the reason to have built the large one with H 700
What the use of them ? anyway it was original on my command car and carry all as well
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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by ziro » Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:42 am

Possibly two types? Early-late? I don't know.

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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by Jean Georges » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:59 am

Hello Ziro

I would go for this hypothesis about early and late type
holding into account that they did not continue the H 700
key on many vehicle type
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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by ziro » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:02 am

I found a original photo from a late Command Car with big fuel filler. It has the large key locks in the handles.

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Re: Dodge wc 53/56/57 tailgate T handle

Post by CapMB » Sat May 18, 2019 7:01 am

ziro wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:39 pm
:D
I have a NOS one. But the problem is, that I'm looking by my self for another one. :lol:

Interesting is, that your key cylinder is larger as mine.

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