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Contingency Plan

Post by 33rdsignal » Thu Nov 07, 2019 7:55 am

So not sure if anyone has been following the drama unfold in the jeep section, but one thing that concerned me was the following statement by an admin(in red).

"When Ron started g503.com all those years ago, he was trying to push the MVPA into the information age and offered to do the forums for them. At the time, they weren't interested. g503.com eventually became a driver of potential customers to Ron's business. Ron has spent a small fortune over the years in upkeep, improvements and maintenance for this site and continues to do so. When Ron phoned me today, I pointed out that at this point in time, he no longer needs g503.com as a means to gain customers and suggested that he just shut it down. Spoiler alert, he was having the same thought. Bill H wants to weather the storm and keep things running."

Now i am not looking to jump ship as I am a rather casual user of the G, but if that decision is made, will we lose all the info here? I think we as a Chevy and Dodge group have shared and can continue to share a significant amount of info, that would be lost to the ages if the G shuts down.

With that being said, i just wanted to bring the attention of an old forum to light that might be a good secondary meeting place and sharing of info for the CCKW and Chevy if this place goes tits up.

www.cckw.org its pretty specific to the big trucks.
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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by lt.luke » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:15 am

Is the CCKW site specific to the big Chevys or are the smaller dodges discussed?

That’s a scary statement and I wonder allowed if it’s taking into account the likelihood of lost $$$$$ if he shuts it down.


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Post by 33rdsignal » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:57 am

lt.luke wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:15 am
Is the CCKW site specific to the big Chevys or are the smaller dodges discussed?
A dodge Forum is here

https://forum.ww2dodge.com/
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Post by lt.luke » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:02 am

Thanks.


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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by rondo » Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:58 pm

I think it would be a huge mistake to drop the forum and it would cost him $$ no doubt.
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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by johnwaz » Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:30 pm

This Forum has been very valuable to me for info, suggestions, and inspiration to get my own G506 going. I hope it sticks around, but it's good to know about alternatives if it doesn't. I'll stay tuned...

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Post by lt.luke » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:03 pm

johnwaz wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:30 pm
This Forum has been very valuable to me for info, suggestions, and inspiration to get my own G506 going. I hope it sticks around, but it's good to know about alternatives if it doesn't. I'll stay tuned...
I’d like the link to the original discussion where the original post was quoted from. I’m not on here a lot anymore but it still leads me to the “Ron for Jeep stuff” and I use the other forums.

My personal opinion is to not play the “hang up and watch” game. If we want this to stay, it should be voiced publicly.

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Post by Frank USMC » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:58 am

If Ron is following this, I just ordered a bunch of parts from him, and this site is the reason why.
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Post by 33rdsignal » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:12 am

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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by 33rdsignal » Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:12 am

lt.luke wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:03 pm
johnwaz wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:30 pm
This Forum has been very valuable to me for info, suggestions, and inspiration to get my own G506 going. I hope it sticks around, but it's good to know about alternatives if it doesn't. I'll stay tuned...
I’d like the link to the original discussion where the original post was quoted from. I’m not on here a lot anymore but it still leads me to the “Ron for Jeep stuff” and I use the other forums.

My personal opinion is to not play the “hang up and watch” game. If we want this to stay, it should be voiced publicly.

viewtopic.php?f=144&t=311389
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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by johnseidts » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:58 am

Although most people don't know it, I have been around this hobby for almost 40 years. I'm not exaggerating- I started with GPA MVHS when it was GPA MVCC with a vehicle museum at the Valley Forge Army Hospital in 1980. The people who started that organization were WWII or Korean War Vets, and to prove my credentials- I met Bill Keehn the first night he came out to the museum, and saw his jeep when it was still actually jade green.

If you are a collector of WWII jeeps or the like, and lived through the old days when you didn't have all the vendors of WWII reproduction parts, you cannot possibly imagine how incredibly privileged we are to have a resource like G503. Back in the day you spent money on long distance phone calls, wrote letters, looked in the classified ads for anything you could find that related to what you owned, and this made it painfully slow to restore a jeep. There were no 1-year, 97 point restorations. It took forever to work on things. The AACA would not even judge WWII vehicles. So you bonded together with others of your like (there were not many, because the hobby wasn't that big) and had a great time when you got together.

G503 has led to the dissolution of the old ways and into the forefront of creating an electronic marketplace and discussion forum which is unequalled, anywhere. It has welcomed new people into the hobby, and in many ways led to to new friendships and bands of interested parties which would not have existed without G503's existence. I regularly refer people to this place to educate themselves on WWII jeeps and other items. My most recent new friend in the hobby came from us linking up here. For that reason, I would hope we can find a way to keep G503 in existence.

Public forums have to allow and accommodate for LGBTQ, Republican, Socialist, and even die-hard military vehicle collector viewpoints alongside those of flat-earthers, moon-landing conspiracy theorists, and Washington Nationals fans (are there really any in existence?). So we need moderators. I have my views on moderators' objectivities and skills, but after all they are volunteers. And we need them. I have had some very twisted, unnatural, unpleasant experiences with certain former members of the G. Unfortunately, there are a few out there who will never be G503 qualified (all of those who have more than 1000 posts should wear a patch which denotes us- I think it lies somewhere between the importance of a library card and the 1-800 label you peel off your new credit card). And that means there will be some pain now and again.

All worth it for such a magnificent forum. I understand the statement that Ron doesn't need this place and acknowledge its truth. But we need this site. This is an unparalleled touchstone for the MB/GPW collector arena, and I hope there is a way to preserve and enhance its existence. Many thanks to those who created it and manage it.

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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by jnissen » Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:57 am

My 2 cents. Those willing to take their toys home and not play... so long. Your the ones that will miss out. Sometimes life is a PIA. Get over yourselves and your perceived importance. At the end of the day if you have 10K post or ten the only thing that matters is the relationships generated over these vehicles. If you walk away from friends Then will you really be missed?


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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by Tonywan Kanobby » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:29 pm

Well, as just a hanger on, I sure do appreciate that this site exists. The opportunity to make contact with you all has been fantastic. That being said, I certainly understand that the host is under no obligation to provide for us. Hopefully we will get some more information on when and if there will be a shutdown. Make sure that you get my email on your computer or phone just in case.

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Post by newc » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:59 pm

Well; I have SOLD 3 of my own vehicles and several of friends' on this site.. It is invaluable for contacts, parts and advise. WHERE is the MVPA???? their site is poor, and late. MVPA could easily run this site with their 'resources'. That it would take some future vision and motivation , yes. Hopefully the MVPA might see the worth of this site. I am a member and have been able to attend five Nationals; difficult for a Pacific NW member. Newc

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Re: Contingency Plan

Post by forestry4evr » Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:08 am

Not good news!

Over the years participation certainly has waned, at least on this section. Perhaps low participation is one of the reasons for considering killing this site?

It will be a real loss as drilling through old posts has certainly helped me with my projects, and I trust others feel the same. The dialog and help from other folks on this site has also been quite helpful.

I am sure hosting the site is a time/money gobbling hassle, but by promoting this hobby via a forum certainly helps his own bottom line. I hope Ron can see the forest for the trees.
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